David, I was hoping you would say it was too big, too heavy, the undercompensation doesn't work... I am seriously running out of excuses for not buying one myself :) The 3200 ISO ability is wonderful, not that I would expect to use it a lot but it is nice to have when I photograph during concerts and doesn't to use a flash. On the Fred Miranda thread a number of users have had problems with the wheel on the back. Leica should now have a fix for the problem. Has it been fixed on your new version of the DM-R? I am looking forward to seeing the 3200 picture. Cheers, Tim ----Original Message----- From: leicareflex-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of telyt@xxxxxxxxx Sent: Sun 5/02/2006 5:44 AM To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Subject: [LRflex] Re: Dm-R Quoting Tim Bedsted <Tim.Bedsted@xxxxxxxxxxx>: > David, > > Good luck on your first trip with the DM-R. I know it takes amazing pictures, > but how is the ergonomics? > Is Bille Xavier correct in critizing it for being too big? how does it > compare to a R8+MotorDrive in actual use. > > I mean is it a combination one would/could have around ones neck an entire > day and so on?? > > Cheers, > Tim > Hi Tim! Greetings from Grande Prairie, Alberta! As you can imagine, we drove up without seeing a single animal or bird... nada in a 11 hour drive. However, once here, I've been playing with my new 'toy', and yes, it's large, but not really any larger than the top-line Canon digis. The same complaint has been leveled against the R8 & 9 as opposed to the R4,5,6, & 7 models. However, the defenders of the faith have always pointed out that the ergonomics of the R8.9 are terriffic. (I agree.) Every button falls under your hand, as it should. The R8 with DM-R is no different. Larger, yes. Heavier... but no heavier than the R8 w/motor. The hand grip makes holding it a joy... and much more comfortable than the R8 alone. (That suprised me!) The handgrip does move your hand, so you cannot easily reach the shutter release, but once again, the DM-R engineers have thought it through... and provided a new, front release that falls perfectly under your finger. The ergnomics for me(I have big hands) are terriffic! Better than I could have hoped. Only problems noted, so far, are [1] when the unit is 'new'... that is it has not been used for a few hours... the memory 'forgets' every custom setting each time it goes to sleep. This is, I find out, normal, and they give that habit up after about 3 hours of operation. Indeed, mine gave it up, and now works perfectly. [2] The other "annoyance" is that the LCD display is not cancelled by hitting the shutter release, as it is with the Canons. You must first turn the display off, on the back, by hitting the "Play" button again. However, these are minor points. The trick of underexposing 3 stops (at ISO 400) and then compensating during "developing" the Raw data works very well... with less noise than the DM-R delivers at ISO 800, while delivering the equivalent of ISO 3200. When I get home (Feb 20th or so) I'll post an 2400x3600pixel image, and you can all judge the noise for yourselves. (I'd have done it before I left, but my ISP's FTP server was down for 4 days!) Photos, as shown on the screen of my Epson P-2000 appear sharper than those taken on the Canon 20D. (Yes, I have both on the unit!) Anyway, that's the first "field report". More to come. Have I wasted my money...as compared to, say, the Canon 5D. So far, I don't think so! Cheers! David. ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- -- Type: application/ms-tnef -- File: winmail.dat ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/