Good morning. Frank and Bill, thank you very much for your suggestions and the
explanations of both of your processes. I really appreciate your guidance.
Best regards,
Peter S
On Mar 19, 2019, at 8:04 PM, Bill Abbott 3 <captbilly3@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Frank, Peter S, et al,
I'm with you Frank. Do it right!
I have my Mac Mini and one Master Lightroom HD for my main HDs.
I also have a main backup HD of each, Mini Backup and Master Lightroom
Backup, on my desk, and a Mini Time Machine HD.
I also have two additional sets of two backup HDs, Alpha and Beta (or
whatever).
One set is on my desk and the other alway at an offsite, a friend’s house,
waiting to be swapped at the end of each month with the other set.
The two main backups and the resident offsite set are backed up once a day by
Carbon Copy Cloner, so in effect, I have two backups of each main drive right
in front of me.
But I do use cloud backup too, both Backblaze and CrashPlan For Small
Business, their simplest offering. They are of course on automatic 24/7 and
relatively cheap.
I do have my 800+ Rollei negatives in the safe deposit box in the bank and
some other physical files stored at one son’s home about 10 miles away in a
conventional suburban area.
The Paradise wildfire here in northern California was only a few miles more
than 200 miles north of where we live,, near San Jose, and is always in our
minds because we back up about 100 feet away from a wild forest.
Even here in suburbia with a fire hydrant just across the street, if the
forest goes up in flames, in all probability our home goes with it.
We have spent considerable amounts of money on equipment and trips all over
and so we have quite an investment in all those travel images, plus the scans
I have of family photos going back to the late 1800s, all of which I want to
leave to my sons. So a few hundred dollars to ensure their safe keeping is
well worth it to me.
My advice: start with what you want to save in a catastrophe and plan to come
out of your worst case scenario with whatever you want to save intact.
Bill
On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:41 AM, Frank Filippone (Redacted sender "red735i" for
DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Frank's First rule of backup...... Do not use cloud services. They "leak";
they cost; they are slow; they are unreliable; something WILL go wrong. It
is a single point failure mechanism. There is NO BACKUP to their services.
And if you decide to break Rule 1, then do the rest of this anyway, in which
case why did you break Rule 1?
Rule 2: You will backup to your choice of HDD. You can use a server, you
can use some funky, expensive and hard to use Raid array ( DROBO for
example) or, a plain external USB HDD. Simple is good. I use USB Drives.
You WILL buy 2-3 identical ( or not) HDD of the type you select because you
need redundancy. How big? REAL big... I bought my current 8GB Seagate
USB3.0 HDD drives for $108 each. These things go on sale often. Decide the
size you want ( I say as big as you can afford for about $100) but certainly
there is no reason to go below 4TB per drive. Do NOT buy cheaper USB2.0
drives they are too slow and not really much cheaper.
If, or when, a drive crashes, replace it for $100 and get on with life. You
have 3 backups..... if one goes down, you are down to 2 for maybe 24 hours.
No big deal.
You will purchase some form of Backup SW..... nothing sophisticated, I use
Acronis True Image. ( we may diverge here as I am a PC user. MAC folk need
to find something else). The key factor here is that the SW will do an
incremental backup... only files that have been changed or are new are
actually backed up.
You will use the SW to establish an AUTOMATIC and easy to use periodic
backup of your desired files. You can include your Image files exclusively
or include your Tax files and or personal correspondence files or whatever
you want. Do NOT use compression if asked.
How often? As often as you wish... Daily? Weekly? Monthly? On Demand?
However often you feel is right for you.
You will use the backup programming for EACH drive..... Monday for drive 1,
Tuesday for drive 2, etc... or Backup to all drives each day..... the best
solution......
YOU WILL USE and PLUG IN ALL YOUR DRIVES EACH DAY!!! Forget this step and
you are back to waiting for problems. A drive that is not online is a
useless drive.
Using this methodology will cost you about $500. You will have a massive
10-30TB of file space, forever, with triple redundancy, and your files will
always be immediately available for fast downloads.
If you are truly paranoid, and I have a former IT Executive who actually
carries around with him, at ALL times, a backup of his files, you can always
store one copy of the drives somewhere else... a friend's house ( do NOT use
an EX WIFE!!!) or in your car ( if you get a SSD, this will be ok.... If you
buy regular spinning disk HDD, this is another formula for disaster) or un
your Murse..... my buddy's approach.....or in a vault in some obscure
location that you will probably never bother to access because it is
difficult and inconvenient)
What you will not get is the access to your backups from your phone. Do you
really need that?
Frank Filippone
Red735i@xxxxxxxxxxx
Good morning to you all. With the news about MySpace digital loss of some 12
years worth of digital files and the other previous cloud companies losing
data, how are y’all backing up your image files? I know the subject was
briefly discussed a few weeks ago, but I’ve lost that email chain. After
moving some boxes of slides and negatives last night and hearing the MySpace
news this morning brought the subject to mind.
I recall David Young having a series of external hard drives, but I’d like
to hear about your process again David, if you’re up for repeating it. And
if anyone else has a process other than a “cloud-service” I sure would be
interested in hearing about it. Currently, I only have my few digital files
on my Mac’s HD with a slight "insurance policy” in the one external HD used
for Apple’s background application, Time Machine. I’ve been tasked by family
members with scanning our parents photos and documents, so a sound
straight-forward process for archiving would be very useful to me. Thank
you.
I have to say that after moving the negatives and slides last night and
hearing this morning’s news, I think back to someone whom many of you knew
probably quite well, Tom Abrahamsson, and his love for film. I never had the
pleasure of meeting him, but every time I use his Rapid Winder on my M6 I
think fondly of him, his designs, and his enthusiasm for Leica and 35mm. To
his memory I say “Thank you, Tom”.
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