----- Original Message ----- From: "Lowell carson" <llc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <lastexodus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 4:48 PM Subject: [lastexodus] Re: More Questions... > > I was thinking a little more about this idea and something came to mind. Coils are Ahriman's 'gift' to allow souls to >survive in the environment of earth. Therefore, it seems to make sense that any soul which managed to throw off its >coil while still on earth, even using a Miracle, would find the experience... unpleasant. Interesting. I know my GM (who was doing more 'home-brew' anyways) brought in the concept of 'disturbance', from In Nomine. You could shift into Deiform, at any time, with no problem... but any Scion within a radius of something like 'Spiritual' in kilometers KNEW that you had done so, and could track you by the disturbance alone... And, shice Ahriman's Scions were 'highly placed' in Earth's governments, ALL sorts of Police started showing up to arrest the 'terrorist mastermind' that my character soon became! It's a little depressing to do things that way, but it certainly makes for a much more 'action-packed' session than requiring a Miracle... {perhaps too much so!} > > How long the deiform could be maintained and how debilitating this might be are important questions, but I still >think that, in the right circumstances, this could be a very useful miracle to have and I would use it as a house rule. > > > > According to what Sean said, manifesting as a deiform on earth is, officially, a lost art, but I like the idea it as a >>miracle, open to all scions, perhaps as a house-rule. Briefly manifesting as a deiform, even without access to >>deiform powers, would be an awe-inspiring feat (except for the Enlightened). And, as I mentioned before, if it takes a Miracle to do anything on Earth, it makes the Enlightened seem rather pointless... or am I missing something really obvious? Good Luck, William A. Peterson willypete@xxxxxxxxxxxx "In the end, after having exhausted all other possible options, you can trust that the Americans will do the right thing." - Winston Churchill