Hello Steve and everyone, I read it. That is the best tone I have seen from Microsoft. But I still have some concerns. However, by following that train of thought, I installed the free Microsoft Windows Defender and it is currently running. During the install, it asks you to make choices in the typical Microsoft fashion, with sketchy info and half threats to encourage you to take the "recommended" option, which I did. That is the spyware network. Ironically, that is a form of spyware in itself. It even admits that some personal information may be inadvertently transferred to Microsoft. I now have so many layers of protection, I'm not sure my computers have enough CPU cycles to do anything else. I guess its always best to use a prophylactic. But usually not two or more at the same time. Defender found no problems. Same for Windows Live OneCare, and my non-Windows BitDefender, on all my computers. Steve: Because of you and Microsoft, I'll sleep better tonight. ... Phil __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/