[JA] Linux with Juno

  • From: James E Henderson <jim.henderson@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: johnjon@xxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 13:11:24 -0400


JJ> I have to edit the reply to all address list to remove
> duplicates (from folks who put themselves on copy to lists)
> and email lists from which I am excluded

Yeah, picking and choosing can be a bit tricky, but still I am copying to
the Juno_accmail list because they are likely to be interested.  However,
nobody has replied there about succeeding or failing to make Linux work
with any part or version of Juno's service or software, so perhaps you
would be a pioneer if you tried one or more of those things.

JJ> My only thought was that if Juno allows use of standard mail 
> applications, then it might work under Linux, using them. 

If you're talking about Juno's mail server, it seems reasonable to
suppose so.  I don't know of anyone who has tried this combination, so I
cannot confirm.

JJ> I wonder why it needs Windows if it can work with e.g. Netscape's
mail client.

If you're talking about one or more of the various versions of Juno's
user software, I'm pretty sure POP3 or other standards relevant to
Netscape Mail are irrelevant to this question.  But you may be talking
about some other "it" in which case someone with more relevant experience
may be able to provide a more useful answer.

JJ> And the motivation for Linux and Juno can be the same:
> to save money!  Why pay hundreds of dollars for Windows,
> only to try to save ten bucks a month using Juno?

Amazing!  Do you know someone who paid hundreds of dollars for Windoze? 
I have never met such a person.  Every Windozer I ever met got the
operating system bundled with the computer.  Even when I find the
hardware lying on a curbstone, it already has the OS installed and
working.  Well, if that's your situation, and if you cannot buy or pick
out of the trash an old computer with Windows already working, and you
are forbidden to use one of the cheap or obsolete Windozes, then Linux
can save money at the expense of the effort of installing it and figuring
how to make it work properly with your hardware.  

But that's very odd.  Most PC owners I know are not even aware that an
operating system can be bought.  They just assume that, like the modem,
it's a part every computer has to come with or the computer is broken. 
Upgrades are witchcraft, as far as they are concerned.  I do not
encourage them to think otherwise, as this attitude makes life easier. 
Yes, operating systems can be upgraded or even replaced with something
completely different.  No, it's seldom worth the effort unless the effort
itself is to be regarded as fun.

So, it looks like you are required to pay an unusual price for Windoze,
thus you have an unusual problem, thus an unusual opportunity.  You can
figure how to make several different versions of Juno's software and
different services of Juno's servers cohabitate with Linux and DSL and
various third party mailers and lots of other combinations nobody else
has tried.  You can become the expert and write the book anyone else will
want to use, if anyone else ever attempts the same thing.  Great fun. 
Great unnecessary headache as far as I'm concerned, but tastes differ. 
My idea of fun has sometimes left me cowering under a bridge during a
thunderstorm, wondering if my legs or my brakes will still be working
when it passes.  Some people might call that an unnecessary headache.


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