Sorry to be almost a week late: > Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 12:25:29 -0600 (MDT) > From: "Brian L. Johnson" <blj8@xxxxxxxx> > Subject: [JA] Re: Juno vs real Internet mail > >-- Attached file included as plaintext by Ecartis -- > >-- File: jaccfaq.txt BLJ> Text attachments to the list get converted to inline > by the Ecartis software that powers this list.. Yes, I didn't realize that, so a version got out that hadn't been finished yet. Also I didn't know my Cc: list for the message would be sent to listateers. Live and learn, sometimes at some cost. > >16 How can I join Juno_accmail? BLJ> So now the only address for the Ecartis or any list thereon >is @freelists.org. There is no more @freelists.dhs.org. Thanks. I didn't know, and have corrected this. Having sent a version to the list in October, I'll wait awhile before sending the corrected version. BLJ> the list's name is Juno_accmail, not "Accmail". Right. I knew that, and screwed up. Corrected. >JH >19 Where did Juno_accmail come from? BLJ> Correct, this list descended from the list accmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > However, part of the reason for starting this list was political. Excellent. I have learned something new. Here's a new version of that Question: ================================================== 19 Where did Juno_accmail come from? Wow, said a bunch of amateur Internet old-timers in 1996, free mail? But only mail? No file transfers? How do we overcome that problem? Well, actually the question had already been posed by students and others who had mail-only service from schools or other providers. It had been answered by "accmail," a kind of service using UUencoding to convert Web pages and other files to mail, for example at the University of Maryland. But now everyone could get mail for free, not just a few at academic institutions. To help them, smart and industrious people cooked up the "Juno_accmail Project." Early versions of Juno's software imposed unique limits on message length, etc that had to be dealt with. They were addressed on the accmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx list already existing, but international participants there objected to extensive discussion of a US-only service, so Ed Bockelman started a new Juno_accmail mailing list focusing on accmail for Juno users. Alan Harrell later took over administering the list and, in 1998-99, Brian Johnson. In the late 1990s, Juno and other companies started providing free Web service. Mail users who wanted files and Web pages but didn't have Web service became scarce, so the original purpose of accmails didn't matter as much. However, without charging any money to users, the Juno company couldn't afford to pay someone to talk on the phone to free riders who had questions or difficulties using the software. So, Juno_accmail's technical help continued to be relevant, and nowadays it's mostly a help club. ================================================== Perhaps readers can offer additional suggestions for cuts, additions, corrections or other improvements. > Subject: [JA] Re: juno_accmail Digest V3 #252 > From: Joann Lee <dnehoc@xxxxxxxx> > Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:14:17 EDT JL> Jim Henderson said he was sending his doc > to the Juno_accmail Project's mailing list. JL> Who are these people and what do they get that we don't? > Are we missing something if we're not on both lists? Sorry, Joan. I was using a more old fashioned designation as seen above. As far as I know, the Project was never abolished. It just faded into this here mailing list. To unsubscribe, send a message to ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe juno_accmail" in the body or subject. OR visit //freelists.org ~*~