So here is our chance to combine the various threads on this list. To all the So Vo or Ne Vo, you are only following a proud matriarchal tradition, althouhg history does not say much about Mr. Trung Trac or Trung Nhi or Trieu Au, known by their wife's name. Chi Van, I hope you are right. I think traditional VN treats women better than traditional China. I remember vaguely about the Tay Son legal code being downright enlightened compared to Gia Long's who went back to the Chinese model. A bit foggy on this now. I think in VN people still think that a house is a man's castle, and short of murder, he can brutalize his family with relative impunity. I am not saying many do, but outside intervention is rare. Are you aware of any study of the problem? I can't leave the forum for the week-end on such a serious note. So here is to LVHung re your energy conservation scheme: Forget the sweater at night. Keep the thermostat low, and use body heat. It is a patriotic duty to reduce oil consumption, right? ----------------------------------------------------------------- At 05:51 PM 1/24/03, you wrote: >Hi Annette and anh Dat, > >Annette, you are 100% correct about the bad lot of the women in VN. However, >please know that everywhere in the world, and even here in the U.S., women do >not really fare that much better. I have encountered very sad cases in my >pro bono work for battered women, and domestic violence is still THE big >killer of women. Women still have a long way to go to enjoy the same rate of >pay, the same treatment from employers, and the same fundamental rights as >men, despite the apparent and superficial conclusions that we have done a lot >better than before. > >I don't personally think our Vietnamese culture breeds wife battering. In >fact, I tend to think that, compared to some other men, Vietnamese men tend >to be more gentle with their women (there are exceptions, of course). One of >the reasons may be because they tend to be less possessive and more detached >toward their women. This is my personal observation based on my life >experience, and what I have seen working as a legal aid lawyer among >different ethnic groups. > >In addition, did not our culture start out as a matriarchal system? I am >probably wrong on this, but I vaguely remember that from my Vietnamese >Civilization Class at Dai Hoc Van Khoa some 30 years ago. > >Van This information is confidential and pre-decisional. Dat Duthinh