[jhb] Re: dvd

  • From: "Kevin Townsend" <175@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:15:26 +0000

yes and thankyou.

I have re-arranged a lot of it.
I know from viewing those available at IVAO GB, that I am overloading the
screen, but as I said before at my age it takes a while to inwardly digest..
and like a 2nd rate <emphasis>acthor</emphasis> the worst thing is being left
groping for your next line!

Cheers

Kev T


"bones" <bones@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> Did I ever send you a copy of the sector file I created directly from the
> SBS data? It's huge at around 6Mb but it shows what could be done.
> 
> bones
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of 175@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: 03 February 2008 08:44
> To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jhb] Re: dvd
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> I follow, and this all makes good sense. The Forum outlines revision of all
> this for version 2, suggestions closed some months ago, otherwise I would
> have added my twopenneth on this factor, to be able to associate these
> overlays with the 4 zoom positions would I feel, also have a distinct
> advantage.
> 
> I have quite a lot drawn in my "Approach" mode - including goaround info,
> adjacent frequencies and "FL at" markers. These are aid memoire until all
> this info sinks in, but add well to confidence levels.
> 
> Downloading examples of other airport sector files from IVAO GB, show
> variations of method, mostly being written by Gareth Richardson, a young man
> in the final phase of training for Heathrow ATC, so designs "by the book".
> 
> My previous post mentions the 2 channel comms, and this would be the
> greatest single advantage from v2. A dichotomy exists as to whether to
> operate "Farnborough Radar" on 134.35 alongside Approach, or operate
> Approach within "Radar" on 1 of the 3 frequencies 125.25W, 123.225E  or the
> new North you mention on 132.8? Interestingly they expect Mode  C.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Kev
> 
> "bones" <bones@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > It's hard to explain this but I'll try.
> >
> > Objects on the display can be divided into two groups - waypoints and
> > outlines. Waypoints are point source objects like fixes, navaids,
> > VRP's etc and outlines are line drawings to delineate controlled
> > airspace or danger areas or whatever.
> >
> > The trouble is that the SCT file format has not taken the above into
> > account and so we don't have a lot of options for creating outlines.
> > The only choice is to place these in the few categories that do exist
> > and so LOW AIRWAY or HIGH AIRWAY get hijacked for other purposes. This
> > is why, in my own SCT file, I have moved holding points to Low Airway
> > and VRP's to High Airway so at least I get the chance to turn them
> > off.
> >
> > In the SBS software there are no less than 30 individual sections for
> > waypoints and the same for outlines. I can therefore have coastlines,
> > TMA, CTA, CTR, ATZ, MATZ, Upper airways, lower airways, Danger areas,
> > FIR, AIAA, ARA, ATA, Airports and so on as separate items to turn on
> > or off as I wish. The same goes for waypoints and I have these
> > separated into Major Airfields, VOR's, NDB's, Fixes, TACAN, Minor
> > Airfields, Masts, Disused airfields, Heliports, VRP's - and even Hang
> > Gliding, Microlight and Parachute sites.
> >
> > The SCT file format needs urgent revision to allow similar
> > flexibility. Until then each designer does what he thinks best for his
> > own airspace and this may not be ideal for other sectors.
> >
> > bones
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of 175@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: 03 February 2008 03:52
> > To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [jhb] Re: dvd
> >
> >
> > Many thanks bones
> >
> > Reading through the IVAO Forum, I discover that many sector files for
> > Ground and Approach are written with overlays in the Airways pages, as
> > these are generally not utilised for these positions.
> >
> > Having read further "wishlist" posts, extra pages for overlays are
> > high on the agenda for v2. I say this as I have a lot of stand,
> > taxiway and apron info on the screen for use when giving taxi and
> > parking instructions, however when zoomed out this becomes a huge blob
> > completely obscuring the airfield plan.
> >
> > Having used the controller software for a while it is growing on me,
> > but it can get very lonely, especially due to having only the one
> > comms channel, and being a smidgen over 200 miles from EGNS I cant see
> > how the experts do it!
> >
> > Muchas Gracias
> >
> > Kev T
> >
> > "bones" <bones@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > I don't add LARS to my airspace files normally as it isn't
> > > controlled airspace - just a boundary for providing a service. All
> > > other airfields have a LARS boundary of 30nm or 40nm radius so it's
> > > not exactly difficult for the controller to work out his area of
> > > operation.
> > >
> > > The Farnborough LARS is quite unique and you are right that it needs
> > > flagging up on screen. I'll send you the data sometime over the
> > > weekend for the SCT file.
> > >
> > > bones
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > Behalf Of 175@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Sent: 02 February 2008 14:15
> > > To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [jhb] Re: dvd
> > >
> > >
> > > All good news bones
> > >
> > > Can you advise how to add this "Farnborough Radar" area to my .sct
> > > info? Might you have it for SBS?
> > >
> > > http://www.ais.org.uk/aes/en/LARS.PDF
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Kev T
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "bones" <bones@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Now that Farnborough is providing LARS for the east as well as
> > > > west and south sectors I think you will have your hands full...
> > > > <g>
> > > >
> > > > bones
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