[jhb] Re: Quadrants
- From: "Paul Reynolds" <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:50:05 +0100
Frank,
You've mentioned you've plugged in other controllers and don't have a
problem with them. Could there be an issue with the controllers in the ini
file conflicting? I know you say you've done the registry trick but have
you cleared all the controller info from your ini files and then tried
re-configuring rather than just tweaking them from within FSX?
I know I'm using fs9 and your now using FSX but it may still be relevant.
I have two fs9.ini files, one contains the configuration for my Saitek yoke,
the other for my Logitech joystick (used maybe once or twice to demonstrate
helicopters but otherwise redundant).
If you want to try calibrating using FSUIPC then delete all the axes in the
FS calibration menus, run FSUIPC and follow these instructions:
http://nzff.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=7549
You can check if it's your yoke responses outside FSX by following the MS
instructions here:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/831361
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Frank Fisher
Sent: 21 April 2010 19:22
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: Quadrants
Tried everything, even deleted the registry entries as per Saitek
instructions. As far as FSUIPC, I have the registered version, but baulked
at trying to set it up.
Basically, moving the lever slowly and smoothly, the lever on the screen,
and the power output of the aircraft is plain erratic, suddenly jumps to
full power, then back to idle, then bounces. And that is when trying to do
it slow. Leaving the lever in one position, it sort of settles down, but
just touch it, and it is away again.
Makes it rather difficult to taxi, and get a smooth approach. Once on
cruise, it is a little easier to set the levers to the required settings.
I suspect the carbon tracks are knackered, as it is all to easy for dust to
collect inside the unit, and you cannot get inside without surgery.
It is not my machine or OS or FSX, as plugging in another joystick is no
problem at all.
I am waiting on Saitek to come back, but they have reorganized/outsourced
their response department
Frank
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fossil" <fossil@xxxxxxx>
To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:55 PM
Subject: [jhb] Re: Quadrants
>I presume you've tried a recalibration, both in the Windows control panel
> and in FSUIPC (if you still run this)?
>
> bones
> bones@xxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Frank Fisher
> Sent: 21 April 2010 16:44
> To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jhb] Re: Quadrants
>
> My pedals are plugged direct into the back of the machine. The yoke direct
> into the front or back. The main controller is plugged into the Yoke, via
> mini round plug, the secondary, a standard USB plug, either into the front
> or back, or the yoke.
> Would have been better if the main controller had a USB plug as well.
> Plugging in other joysticks, they are steady as a rock. The fact that it
> is
> only the one lever, which is the most used, which is causing the problem.
> I do not think the life cycle of those carbon sliders is very high.
> As I recall, I had no problem with either, before reinstalling Vista a
> fair
> while ago. Only since then.
> Perhaps an upgrade to Win7 will do the trick, or not as the case may be.
> Or perhaps deleting all the Hub devices in the device manager, and let
> Windows recreate them would help. There is a lot of them.
>
> Frank
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gerry Winskill" <gwinsk@xxxxxxx>
> To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:54 PM
> Subject: [jhb] Re: Quadrants
>
>
>> Mine are both fine. I thought they were going downhill, a couple of
>> months ago, coincident with the change to W7. Eventually I sorted them
>> out, by a mixture of uninstall followed by reinstall, plus changing the
>> USB Hub into which they were plugged. I think it was the last move that
>> cured them, so it would be worth trying this first. Best bet might be to
>> try plugging one of them directly into a USB socket on the PC, then see
>> how it behaves.
>>
>> The downside of a large number of USB connected addons seems to be
>> unwanted interaction. Occasionally I find that changing something like
>> an ADF frequency can also result in a change in my GF Autopilot's
>> Altitude setting.
>>
>> Gerry Winskill
>>
>> Frank Fisher wrote:
>>> I have just fired off an email to Saitek regarding my ProFlight Throttle
>>> quadrants.
>>>
>>> The secondary quadrant, a few months back, developed a fault, namely the
>>> throttle and mixture levers were giving out an unstable output, and
>>> basically unusable. It is now in use solely for the buttons which is
>>> controlling my AC electrics, Gens/Batt/Starter etc.
>>>
>>> Now the main throttle is going the same way, unstable and bouncing
>>> outputs.
>>>
>>> These units are just over 2 years old, with reasonable use, mainly for
>>> GA and some jets, for Helios, I use a Saitek twiststick.
>>>
>>> A careful examination inside, reveals the lever controllers, are
>>> constructed using open to the atmosphere carbon sliders, instead of the
>>> more usual, and more robust, rotary pots. Ok, so the units are smaller
>>> for that.
>>>
>>> I imagine that dust has filtered inside and on to the carbon face, and
>>> then wiped by the slider, which has gradually worn off the face,
>>> reducing electrical contact. A very poor design.
>>>
>>> I am now faced with the prospect of replacing said controllers, sooner
>>> rather than later than expected. The Yoke and Pedals are A1.
>>>
>>> Depending on Saiteks response.
>>>
>>> Replacement controllers. Saitek? Costing?
>>> Replacement controllers CH? Costing?
>>> Or dig out my soldering iron, and replace the pots with sealed rotary
>>> ones. A new housing for the larger pots will be needed of course.
>>>
>>> Anyone else with Saitek throttle controllers, beware. I got mine from
>>> Pixmania, so I am not expecting a good response from Saitek.
>>>
>>> I am not a happy bunny.
>>>
>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>
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