Frank,
You've mentioned you've plugged in other controllers and don't have a
problem with them. Could there be an issue with the controllers in the
ini
file conflicting? I know you say you've done the registry trick but have
you cleared all the controller info from your ini files and then tried
re-configuring rather than just tweaking them from within FSX?
I know I'm using fs9 and your now using FSX but it may still be relevant.
I have two fs9.ini files, one contains the configuration for my Saitek
yoke,
the other for my Logitech joystick (used maybe once or twice to
demonstrate
helicopters but otherwise redundant).
If you want to try calibrating using FSUIPC then delete all the axes in
the
FS calibration menus, run FSUIPC and follow these instructions:
http://nzff.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=7549
You can check if it's your yoke responses outside FSX by following the MS
instructions here:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/831361
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Frank Fisher
Sent: 21 April 2010 19:22
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: Quadrants
Tried everything, even deleted the registry entries as per Saitek
instructions. As far as FSUIPC, I have the registered version, but baulked
at trying to set it up.
Basically, moving the lever slowly and smoothly, the lever on the screen,
and the power output of the aircraft is plain erratic, suddenly jumps to
full power, then back to idle, then bounces. And that is when trying to do
it slow. Leaving the lever in one position, it sort of settles down, but
just touch it, and it is away again.
Makes it rather difficult to taxi, and get a smooth approach. Once on
cruise, it is a little easier to set the levers to the required settings.
I suspect the carbon tracks are knackered, as it is all to easy for dust
to
collect inside the unit, and you cannot get inside without surgery.
It is not my machine or OS or FSX, as plugging in another joystick is no
problem at all.
I am waiting on Saitek to come back, but they have reorganized/outsourced
their response department
Frank
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fossil" <fossil@xxxxxxx>
To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:55 PM
Subject: [jhb] Re: Quadrants
I presume you've tried a recalibration, both in the Windows control panel
and in FSUIPC (if you still run this)?
bones
bones@xxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Frank Fisher
Sent: 21 April 2010 16:44
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: Quadrants
My pedals are plugged direct into the back of the machine. The yoke
direct
into the front or back. The main controller is plugged into the Yoke, via
mini round plug, the secondary, a standard USB plug, either into the
front
or back, or the yoke.
Would have been better if the main controller had a USB plug as well.
Plugging in other joysticks, they are steady as a rock. The fact that it
is
only the one lever, which is the most used, which is causing the problem.
I do not think the life cycle of those carbon sliders is very high.
As I recall, I had no problem with either, before reinstalling Vista a
fair
while ago. Only since then.
Perhaps an upgrade to Win7 will do the trick, or not as the case may be.
Or perhaps deleting all the Hub devices in the device manager, and let
Windows recreate them would help. There is a lot of them.
Frank
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerry Winskill" <gwinsk@xxxxxxx>
To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:54 PM
Subject: [jhb] Re: Quadrants
Mine are both fine. I thought they were going downhill, a couple of
months ago, coincident with the change to W7. Eventually I sorted them
out, by a mixture of uninstall followed by reinstall, plus changing the
USB Hub into which they were plugged. I think it was the last move that
cured them, so it would be worth trying this first. Best bet might be to
try plugging one of them directly into a USB socket on the PC, then see
how it behaves.
The downside of a large number of USB connected addons seems to be
unwanted interaction. Occasionally I find that changing something like
an ADF frequency can also result in a change in my GF Autopilot's
Altitude setting.
Gerry Winskill
Frank Fisher wrote:
I have just fired off an email to Saitek regarding my ProFlight
Throttle
quadrants.
The secondary quadrant, a few months back, developed a fault, namely
the
throttle and mixture levers were giving out an unstable output, and
basically unusable. It is now in use solely for the buttons which is
controlling my AC electrics, Gens/Batt/Starter etc.
Now the main throttle is going the same way, unstable and bouncing
outputs.
These units are just over 2 years old, with reasonable use, mainly for
GA and some jets, for Helios, I use a Saitek twiststick.
A careful examination inside, reveals the lever controllers, are
constructed using open to the atmosphere carbon sliders, instead of the
more usual, and more robust, rotary pots. Ok, so the units are smaller
for that.
I imagine that dust has filtered inside and on to the carbon face, and
then wiped by the slider, which has gradually worn off the face,
reducing electrical contact. A very poor design.
I am now faced with the prospect of replacing said controllers, sooner
rather than later than expected. The Yoke and Pedals are A1.
Depending on Saiteks response.
Replacement controllers. Saitek? Costing?
Replacement controllers CH? Costing?
Or dig out my soldering iron, and replace the pots with sealed rotary
ones. A new housing for the larger pots will be needed of course.
Anyone else with Saitek throttle controllers, beware. I got mine from
Pixmania, so I am not expecting a good response from Saitek.
I am not a happy bunny.
Frank
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