[jhb] Re: Bloody MS
- From: "bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
- To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:39:46 -0000
Better to download one year of updates than three year's worth.
OEM's come in different flavours and some have the most recent SP2 changes
on them. The last I saw was SP2-3-B.
bones
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From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Franklyn Fisher
Sent: 10 January 2008 11:28
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: Bloody MS
Yes, but SP2 is over a year old, you still have to download all the
intervening updates.
Frank F
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From: "bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 1:21 AM
Subject: [jhb] Re: Bloody MS
> Yep - that is effectively what they implied - an OEM version is
> machine specific.
>
> What is odd is that I've replaced parts of my PC before and XP
> detected
> the
> changes and it demanded a new activation code. The activation was
> accepted
> without a quibble last time - but that was three years ago. Maybe they've
> become more neurotic in the intervening period.
>
> In truth I may buy a new XP disk anyway. The original is XP Pro prior
> to
> SP1
> and SP2 so I know the pain it will be to install it and spend several
> hours
> online downloading the patches and updates. Last time I did that I got
> infected with loads of viruses because XP prior to SP2 had no effective AV
> protection - and you can't install Av software until XP has finished
> updating itself. I think it would actually be worth the 77 quid to get a
> new
> XP Pro SP2 CD so that I don't have to go through all that hassle again (as
> Mike has recently done).
>
> I definitely won't be buying Vista.
>
> bones
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Paul Reynolds
> Sent: 09 January 2008 23:58
> To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jhb] Re: Bloody MS
>
>
> I was confused by M$ response to you. What are they saying to us?
> That
> once
> installed that's it, you cannot adjust your system? If the system on
> which
> you had it installed is no longer in service then why can't you install it
> again? I cannot see how you would be breaching copyright law since it is
> installed and in use on only one machine. I think this is another example
> of their contempt for the average user. OK so there are plenty of people
> who will use pirated copies of XP on a regular basis but when they know
> you
> are using a copy you own on just one machine, again a machine you own,
> what's the problem? Especially when you've co-operated and informed them
> of
> your actions. To tell you that since the machine that previously had the
> OEM version installed is no longer in use you cannot now use your copy of
> XP
> is ridiculous. For me, it's made worse since part of their updates regime
> includes the Genuine Advantage tool. Isn't this supposed to detect
> unauthorised use of Microsoft products and effectively disable them with a
> warning of their illigitamacy? If so then they could have transferred the
> OEM registration to your new machine so that if, in future, your old
> machine
> showed up online the Genuine Advantage tool would quite rightly kick in
> and
> invalidate the windows installation since you have told them it's no
> longer
> in use on that machine.
>
> What really confused me though is that I have OEM XP Home installed on
> the machine that I use for flying and I replaced the Mobo. with one
> that was nvidia as opposed to ATI based to make it compatible with the
> 8800 which had in turn replaced an ATI X300. Since then I've had to
> do a full re-install and I re-registered XP without a hitch.
> Obviously upgrading in stages doesn't invalidate the licence but doing
> it in one pop does!
>
> I think you were poorly treated. I think we'd all rather do without
> M$ if it wasn't for the fact that there is usually no option but to
> suffer at the hands of the Gates empire if you want to do most of the
> stuff we do on our PC's. OK Linux lobbiests, I can hear you muttering
> away back there and yes,
> I agree there are in many cases some excellent alternatives. I have Open
> Office on one machine, XP Office Pro on another and Office Home and
> Student
> Edition 2007 on the laptop and I do most of my work using Open Office!
> Partly because it's installed on the machine that's most comfortable to
> work
> on but also simply because I don't like using M$ products unless I really
> have to. I really ought to go the whole hog and run one of the machines
> as
> a full blown full linux based system but I haven't got around to it yet.
>
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of bones
> Sent: 09 January 2008 23:06
> To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jhb] Re: Bloody MS
>
>
> If your copy of XP is an OEM version then sticking it on a new machine
> will
> only trigger the activation sequence again - which is the same situation
> as
> I am in. Although cheaper to buy the OEM version is locked to one PC..
>
> bones
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of franklyn fisher
> Sent: 09 January 2008 17:19
> To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jhb] Re: Bloody MS
>
>
> More money in Bill's pocket, and they wonder why people are not
> upgrading, or going to an alternate.
>
> You always got the Vista route, and run it in XP mode Ha Ha.
>
> I think I will stick my current copy of XP on my new machine, and
> Linux on this one, or maybe WinME/95/ or 98. And worry about changing
> to Vista at a later date.
>
> FF
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