Re: word perfect
- From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:55:21 -0500
Yeah, I know what you're getting at but the fact remains that there are
entire classes of people who will never need and never use word and be happy
not doing it. Star office is free and or cheap so maybe he should get that
instead. the point is that he can get what he needs without word.
Johnnie Apple Seed
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 11:41 AM
Subject: RE: word perfect
It's not so much reading, that *usually* converts ok, but often a lot of
the structures used to produce a complex document, it's structure and
it's formatting, are lost in the conversion; this means that the person
with only Wordpad cannot then work on a Word document that's been given
them, and return it to the originator with the needed changes.
They also cannot make use of a Word form, which is a document structured
in such a way as to be easy to fill out; however, you must use Word to
do this, you can't use anything else, including Wordpad.
Hth,
Chip
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> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 11:13 AM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: word perfect
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> I have used wordpad for most of the last 5 years of computing=20
> on my system and have not found a document worth reading that=20
> I could not read with word pad.
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> Johnnie Apple Seed
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 11:05 AM
> Subject: RE: word perfect
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> Wordpad however doesn't allow you to import and edit Word=20
> documents (not
> without possibly losing features or formatting that is). My message,
> however unfortunate, is that it's very likely someone will at=20
> some time
> give the original poster a word document, and he will then have a
> problem to deal with it. That is what, more than anything=20
> else, forced
> us to go through a very painful conversion from WordPerfect to Word.
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> We literally have hundreds of thousands of documents in Word Perfect,
> and 20 years of staff with WP experience, not to mention many=20
> thousands
> of lines of document automation programming, and yet we found it
> necessary to make the conversion, dispite these very strong=20
> reasons not
> to do so. It's pretty much all I've been doing for the last 18 months
> (reprogramming systems in Word/VBA instead of
> WordPerfect/PerfectScript). Believe me, I've come to a rather good
> understanding as to the relative merrits of each system.
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> Chip
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> Chip
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
> > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 9:53 AM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: word perfect
> >=3D20
> > What he will be doing with writing does not justify the 29=3D20
> > dollars or 150 dollars he'll have to spend on word/office. I=3D20
> > am not even certain that dell will now offer him the upgrade=3D20
> > to word as that is a time of purchase offer so he'll have to=3D20
> > pay more for it. He has word pad on his system and that will=3D20
> > allow him to save documents in .rtf which works fine with word.
> >=3D20
> > Johnnie Apple Seed
> >=3D20
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 9:37 AM
> > Subject: RE: word perfect
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> >=3D20
> > Steve,
> >=3D20
> > Sorry, but I have to disagree with this advice.
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> > It's true enough that outlook express will work fine=20
> without having to
> > add MS Office. However, like it or not, Microsoft word=3D20
> > document format
> > has become the "industry standard" for documents which are=20
> meant to be
> > edited (as opposed to PDF for those which aren't meant to=20
> be changed).
> > You'll probably want to switch to Word for this reason alone.
> >=3D20
> > If this isn't sufficient, I believe that the jaws support=3D20
> > from FS is now
> > much better for MS Word than it is for WordPerfect.
> >=3D20
> > One final note, WordPerfect will claim that you can import Word
> > documents, and then edit them in WordPerfect, and then save=3D20
> > them back in
> > Word format when you need this. The rest of the world pretty=3D20
> > much says
> > this will more likely than not destroy your document's formatting.
> > That's been our own experience here where I work (a corporate
> > environment of 350 WordPerfect users until recently).
> >=3D20
> > Hth,
> >=3D20
> > Chip
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> > =3D3D20
> >=3D20
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20
> > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
> > > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 9:06 AM
> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: word perfect
> > >=3D3D20
> > > Steve,
> > >=3D3D20
> > > Word perfect works fine on your system. Just get the stand=3D3D20
> > > alone spell checker for outlook express if you can and=3D3D20
> > > install and use it if wp 12 works for you, don't waste your=3D3D20
> > > money on the behemoth.
> > >=3D3D20
> > > Johnnie Apple Seed
> > >=3D3D20
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Steve Gomes" <finnygomes@xxxxxxx>
> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 10:13 PM
> > > Subject: Re: word perfect
> > >=3D3D20
> > >=3D3D20
> > > I didn't realize that when I ordered the new machine that=3D3D20
> > > word perfec and
> > > microsoft didn't work together. I asked the guy if word pad=3D3D20
> > > and note pad
> > > were on there with word perfect and he said yes. He didn't=3D3D20
> > > tell me that
> > > microsoft products didn't work with correll. He told me =
that=3D3D20
> > > I could have
> > > had microsoft word for $29 more and I said no thinking it=3D3D20
> > > would be okay to
> > > have word perfect. I also realize now that most email=3D3D20
> > > programs work with
> > > microsoft word and I will have to get it. I made a mistake.
> > > ----- Original Message -----=3D3D20
> > > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 2:49 PM
> > > Subject: RE: word perfect
> > >=3D3D20
> > >=3D3D20
> > > > It appears that FS hasn't added any support for=20
> WordPerfect since
> > > > version 10 (just checking my jfw5.1 dir quickly anyway).
> > > >
> > > > If Corel is still following their previous pattern, you=3D3D20
> > > need to modify
> > > > your registry to make WP 12 use "standard" video output=3D3D20
> > > techniques so
> > > > that jfw will speak properly. Below are 3 lines that you=3D3D20
> > > could copy and
> > > > paste, using any text editor, into a file with a .reg =
file=3D3D20
> > > extension.
> > > > Then, once you have it, double click it or run it just =
like=3D3D20
> > > you would
> > > > any program and it will make the registry change that I=3D20
> > expect WP 12
> > > > still needs. If WP doesn't need this key any longer, =
this=3D3D20
> > > won't hurt
> > > > anything, it will just add an unused key in your registry. =
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> > > Regedit may
> > > > ask you if it's ok to do this, depending on your =
particular=3D3D20
> > > version, so
> > > > you should choose "yes".
> > > >
> > > > As for your Word question; sure, go ahead and install=3D20
> > what you have,
> > > > assuming your new pc didn't come with anything newer; =
but,=3D3D20
> > > it's pretty
> > > > important to get those Word bug fixes, so I'd buy the=3D3D20
> > > latest version as
> > > > soon as you can. You can get it as part of the MS Office=3D3D20
> > > Small Business
> > > > Suite for around $99.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hth,
> > > >
> > > > Chip
> > > >
> > > > ---------
> > > >
> > > > REGEDIT4
> > > > [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Corel\WordPerfect\12\Display]
> > > > "Disable Optimization"=3D3D3D3D"1"
> > > >
> > > > ------------
> > > >
> > > > =3D3D3D20
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20
> > > >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Gomes
> > > >> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 4:01 PM
> > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> Subject: word perfect
> > > >>=3D3D3D20
> > > >> On my new machine I have the new word perfect 12. Does=3D20
> > anyone=3D3D3D20
> > > >> know all about how to use it who I could talk to? =
Also=3D3D3D20
> > > >> should I just install my mocrosoft word on my new=3D20
> > machine. it=3D3D3D20
> > > >> came with my windows 98 machine and I got it in 1999.=3D3D3D20
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