Re: word perfect
- From: "Steve Gomes" <finnygomes@xxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:49:11 -0700
I thought word perfect was going to work for me. I didn't know that it would
not be eble to interact with my word documents and would have paid the extra
money for word. and You know what? I did buy word and am all set. thanks
again. lets let it rest.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 10:06 AM
Subject: RE: word perfect
> Ok, I guess it comes down to you and I will have to agree to disagree as
> to "what he needs", and he will have to decide for himself.
>
> As you point out, if every dollar counts, then something free is always
> the first choice; as I'm trying to point out, sometimes our needs or
> circumstances force us to spend money we'd rather not spend to avoid a
> great deal of difficulty trying to do it with freeware.
>
> Chip
>
> =20
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 11:55 AM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: word perfect
>>=20
>> Yeah, I know what you're getting at but the fact remains=20
>> that there are entire classes of people who will never need=20
>> and never use word and be happy not doing it. Star office is=20
>> free and or cheap so maybe he should get that instead. the=20
>> point is that he can get what he needs without word.
>>=20
>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>=20
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 11:41 AM
>> Subject: RE: word perfect
>>=20
>>=20
>> It's not so much reading, that *usually* converts ok, but=20
>> often a lot of
>> the structures used to produce a complex document, it's structure and
>> it's formatting, are lost in the conversion; this means that=20
>> the person
>> with only Wordpad cannot then work on a Word document that's=20
>> been given
>> them, and return it to the originator with the needed changes.
>>=20
>> They also cannot make use of a Word form, which is a document=20
>> structured
>> in such a way as to be easy to fill out; however, you must use Word to
>> do this, you can't use anything else, including Wordpad.
>>=20
>> Hth,
>>=20
>> Chip
>>=20
>> =3D20
>>=20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
>> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
>> > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 11:13 AM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: Re: word perfect
>> >=3D20
>> > I have used wordpad for most of the last 5 years of computing=3D20
>> > on my system and have not found a document worth reading that=3D20
>> > I could not read with word pad.
>> >=3D20
>> > Johnnie Apple Seed
>> >=3D20
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 11:05 AM
>> > Subject: RE: word perfect
>> >=3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > Wordpad however doesn't allow you to import and edit Word=3D20
>> > documents (not
>> > without possibly losing features or formatting that is). =20
>> My message,
>> > however unfortunate, is that it's very likely someone will at=3D20
>> > some time
>> > give the original poster a word document, and he will then have a
>> > problem to deal with it. That is what, more than anything=3D20
>> > else, forced
>> > us to go through a very painful conversion from WordPerfect to Word.
>> >=3D20
>> > We literally have hundreds of thousands of documents in=20
>> Word Perfect,
>> > and 20 years of staff with WP experience, not to mention many=3D20
>> > thousands
>> > of lines of document automation programming, and yet we found it
>> > necessary to make the conversion, dispite these very strong=3D20
>> > reasons not
>> > to do so. It's pretty much all I've been doing for the=20
>> last 18 months
>> > (reprogramming systems in Word/VBA instead of
>> > WordPerfect/PerfectScript). Believe me, I've come to a rather good
>> > understanding as to the relative merrits of each system.
>> >=3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > Chip
>> >=3D20
>> >=3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > Chip
>> >=3D20
>> > =3D3D20
>> >=3D20
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20
>> > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
>> > > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 9:53 AM
>> > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > Subject: Re: word perfect
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > What he will be doing with writing does not justify the 29=3D3D20
>> > > dollars or 150 dollars he'll have to spend on word/office. =
> I=3D3D20
>> > > am not even certain that dell will now offer him the =
> upgrade=3D3D20
>> > > to word as that is a time of purchase offer so he'll have =
> to=3D3D20
>> > > pay more for it. He has word pad on his system and that =
> will=3D3D20
>> > > allow him to save documents in .rtf which works fine with word.
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > Johnnie Apple Seed
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 9:37 AM
>> > > Subject: RE: word perfect
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > Steve,
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > Sorry, but I have to disagree with this advice.
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > It's true enough that outlook express will work fine=3D20
>> > without having to
>> > > add MS Office. However, like it or not, Microsoft word=3D3D20
>> > > document format
>> > > has become the "industry standard" for documents which are=3D20
>> > meant to be
>> > > edited (as opposed to PDF for those which aren't meant to=3D20
>> > be changed).
>> > > You'll probably want to switch to Word for this reason alone.
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > If this isn't sufficient, I believe that the jaws support=3D3D20
>> > > from FS is now
>> > > much better for MS Word than it is for WordPerfect.
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > One final note, WordPerfect will claim that you can import Word
>> > > documents, and then edit them in WordPerfect, and then save=3D3D20
>> > > them back in
>> > > Word format when you need this. The rest of the world =
> pretty=3D3D20
>> > > much says
>> > > this will more likely than not destroy your document's formatting.
>> > > That's been our own experience here where I work (a corporate
>> > > environment of 350 WordPerfect users until recently).
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > Hth,
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > Chip
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > =3D3D3D20
>> > >=3D3D20
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D20
>> > > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
>> > > > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 9:06 AM
>> > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > Subject: Re: word perfect
>> > > >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > Steve,
>> > > >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > Word perfect works fine on your system. Just get the=20
>> stand=3D3D3D20
>> > > > alone spell checker for outlook express if you can and=3D3D3D20
>> > > > install and use it if wp 12 works for you, don't waste=20
>> your=3D3D3D20
>> > > > money on the behemoth.
>> > > >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > Johnnie Apple Seed
>> > > >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > From: "Steve Gomes" <finnygomes@xxxxxxx>
>> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 10:13 PM
>> > > > Subject: Re: word perfect
>> > > >=3D3D3D20
>> > > >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > I didn't realize that when I ordered the new machine =
> that=3D3D3D20
>> > > > word perfec and
>> > > > microsoft didn't work together. I asked the guy if word=20
>> pad=3D3D3D20
>> > > > and note pad
>> > > > were on there with word perfect and he said yes. He=20
>> didn't=3D3D3D20
>> > > > tell me that
>> > > > microsoft products didn't work with correll. He told me =3D
>> that=3D3D3D20
>> > > > I could have
>> > > > had microsoft word for $29 more and I said no thinking=20
>> it=3D3D3D20
>> > > > would be okay to
>> > > > have word perfect. I also realize now that most email=3D3D3D20
>> > > > programs work with
>> > > > microsoft word and I will have to get it. I made a mistake.
>> > > > ----- Original Message -----=3D3D3D20
>> > > > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 2:49 PM
>> > > > Subject: RE: word perfect
>> > > >=3D3D3D20
>> > > >=3D3D3D20
>> > > > > It appears that FS hasn't added any support for=3D20
>> > WordPerfect since
>> > > > > version 10 (just checking my jfw5.1 dir quickly anyway).
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If Corel is still following their previous pattern, =
> you=3D3D3D20
>> > > > need to modify
>> > > > > your registry to make WP 12 use "standard" video =
> output=3D3D3D20
>> > > > techniques so
>> > > > > that jfw will speak properly. Below are 3 lines that=20
>> you=3D3D3D20
>> > > > could copy and
>> > > > > paste, using any text editor, into a file with a .reg =3D
>> file=3D3D3D20
>> > > > extension.
>> > > > > Then, once you have it, double click it or run it just =3D
>> like=3D3D3D20
>> > > > you would
>> > > > > any program and it will make the registry change that I=3D3D20
>> > > expect WP 12
>> > > > > still needs. If WP doesn't need this key any longer, =3D
>> this=3D3D3D20
>> > > > won't hurt
>> > > > > anything, it will just add an unused key in your registry. =3D
>> =3D3D3D20
>> > > > Regedit may
>> > > > > ask you if it's ok to do this, depending on your =3D
>> particular=3D3D3D20
>> > > > version, so
>> > > > > you should choose "yes".
>> > > > >
>> > > > > As for your Word question; sure, go ahead and install=3D3D20
>> > > what you have,
>> > > > > assuming your new pc didn't come with anything newer; =3D
>> but,=3D3D3D20
>> > > > it's pretty
>> > > > > important to get those Word bug fixes, so I'd buy the=3D3D3D20
>> > > > latest version as
>> > > > > soon as you can. You can get it as part of the MS=20
>> Office=3D3D3D20
>> > > > Small Business
>> > > > > Suite for around $99.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Hth,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Chip
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ---------
>> > > > >
>> > > > > REGEDIT4
>> > > > > [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Corel\WordPerfect\12\Display]
>> > > > > "Disable Optimization"=3D3D3D3D3D"1"
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ------------
>> > > > >
>> > > > > =3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > > > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Gomes
>> > > > >> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 4:01 PM
>> > > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > >> Subject: word perfect
>> > > > >>=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> On my new machine I have the new word perfect 12. Does=3D3D20
>> > > anyone=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> know all about how to use it who I could talk to? =3D
>> Also=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> should I just install my mocrosoft word on my new=3D3D20
>> > > machine. it=3D3D3D3D20
>> > > > >> came with my windows 98 machine and I got it in=20
>> 1999.=3D3D3D3D20
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