I have the latest patch and it crashed 4.51. So there is something in the code which is incompatible with that version of JFW. As I stated earlier, a friend of mine with 4.02 was able to access the page and JFW 5.0 was able to access the page. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Epley" <gregepley@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 11:10 AM Subject: Re: speech lost when going to a certain web site Hi, I checked the web site with my unpatched 4.51 and it crashes JAWS. I verified this with Narrator on Windows XP. I didn't go further than that because it destabilizes my system enough that Narrator won't read buttons to me so I can get into the error report. Since this is the first web site I've run across that wants to crash 4.51, I have to assume they're doing something that's highly unusual on their web site that's also part of the problem. The entire issue here doesn't lie with JAWS; it's up to the web site designers to do their job right and obviously that didn't happen with the site in question. One interesting thing, and I don't know if this has any bearing on the problem or not, is that when I have the web site up and try to View Source to see the HTML, the resulting page of source seems to be completely blank. I verified this with JAWS 5.00.844. I can't say I've run across many web sites where the source page comes up empty like this. I know there is a way to do that but most sites don't do it and I can't understand why this particular site would do it based on their content. Usually hiding source is reserved for content which one would consider necessary to secure for reasons of some business nature, and not just to do it because it can be done. Apparently it is some bug with 4.51, at least the unpatched version, because the site seems to run fine with 5.00.844. -Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 8:21 AM Subject: Re: speech lost when going to a certain web site > Since you have found that out, something has occured to me. The 4.51 that I am using, I did not load the latest patch > for. So now those of you that lost speech with 4.51, did you have the latest patch? Anybody who did not loose speech > with 4.51, did you have the latest patch? > > I have now switched to jaws 5, and it works okay for me up there. > Walter Siren > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve" <k8sp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 9:34 PM > Subject: Re: speech lost when going to a certain web site > > > > I also lose speech with JFW 4.51 and IE 6 on Win XP. I had a friend try it > > with JFW 4.02 and JFW 5.06 and it worked fine with both and they had Win 98 SE > > with IE 6. Sounds like this could be a peculiarity with JFW 4.51. > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > -- > > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the > subject line. > > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > > > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post > them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > -- > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx