Re: screen vs simple layout
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 17:35:38 -0800
Hi,
I figured it could be done permanently through the Configuration Manager,
which thanks for confirming. But what considerations would dictate making
this a permanent setting? In fact, what sort of specific Web site
difficulty would suggest doing this even temporarily? any ordinary table?
Or a site whose pages were all full of tables? Or a general expectation
that, whenever you came upon a table, at any URL, you'd always want it to
read this way?
Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Lange" <trlange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: screen vs simple layout
Hi,
Yes, this change can be set up on the fly through the verbosity dialog, and,
if you want that change to be permanent, you do it through configuration
manager. To do that, from any Internet Explorer window, press insert+f6 to
bring up the IE configuration. Then, do an alt+s to bring up the "Set
Options" menu. Arrow down to HTML options and press Enter. This is a
multi-page dialog. Go into the Misc tab and it's the first combo box you'll
see. Set it accordingly, click OK or just whack Enter and you're in
business.
Just to clarify a bit, to my knowledge, these presentation options have
nothing to do with tables in Word.
Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong.
Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: screen vs simple layout
> Probably the Insert V on-the-fly Jaws menu you can call up while Web
> surfing, is what I'm assuming.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@xxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:00 AM
> Subject: RE: screen vs simple layout
>
>
> What menu are you guys talking about? Anything that makes table reading
> easier, especially in word, is right down my alley.
>
> Ted
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Yardbird
> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 1:49 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: screen vs simple layout
>
>
> Tom,
>
> thanks. That's great. Even though I've learned a keyboard command for
> approximating this effect while reading a table (I think it's shift
> insert
> num pad 5), being able to set a table to display to Jaws this way will
> be a
> nice addition to that. The hardest thing for me about interpreting a
> table
> with jaws is trying to memorize everything as I go so that I can imagine
> the
> table mentally as if I could still see it. This is a second tool for
> simplifying that sometimes very daunting process.
>
> Thanks again.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Lange" <trlange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:36 AM
> Subject: Re: screen vs simple layout
>
>
> Hi,
> Let me see if I can explain this clearly. It has to do with the way that
> tables are presented to you on web pages.
>
> By default, JAWS 7 and 8 set the document presentation mode to simple
> layout. Suppose you have a table with 3 columns and 3 rows. As you use
> your
> down arrow to read down the page and encounter this table, each cell in
> the
> table would appear to be on a separate line. Thus each of the nine
> table
> cells would appear one after another in a vertical fashion, like this
>
> Table has 3 columns and 3 rows
> Model
> Description
> Price
> STD
> JAWS for Windows Standard Edition
> $995.00
> PRO
> JAWS for Windows Professional Edition
> $1185.00
> Table End
>
>
> . Get the picture?
>
> Now, when you set document presentation mode to screen layout. instead
> of
> encountering each cell as a separate line item, again using your down
> arrow,
> you'd find that each table row appears on its own line, and the complete
> row
> would be read to you, as follows:
>
> Table has 3 columns and 3 rows
> Model Description Price
> STD | JAWS for Windows Standard Edition | $995.00
> PRO | JAWS For Windows Professional Edition | $1185.00
> Table End
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Tom
>
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