RE: real spam

  • From: "PatLenahan" <PatLenahan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:16:30 -0600

Hi List,
I had pretty good luck designing a filter that looks for e-mail that comes
to you through the bcc address. Apparently this is a tactic used by several
spammers to hide their purposes.

Since MSFT does not provide a filter for this field, you need to create a
series of steps that accomplish this by another method:
1) First pick the rule that selects messages where your address is NOT in
the "To" field of the message.
2) Move the e-mail to another Folder such as Junk
3( Add an exception that will ignore messages where your address is in the
"To" or "CC" field
At this point you have a rule that will catch a lot of the junk. However, it
will also catch many messages that you will want to receive. That is why you
need to examine the "Junk" folder for these "false positives". Then create
an ecxception for each address or domain that you want to remain in your
Inbox. An easy way to do this is add an exception for your entire Address
Book.

I found that this works for Outlook 2000 and my wife's XP Home installation
(pre-Outlook 2003). Interestingly, I found that the most recent updates to
Microsoft Office for my Windows XP Office 2003 added some new spam filters
that solved the problem for me without adding a rule. Outlook 2003 appears
to be much more sophisticated in its approach to spam and has several tuning
options. To get the update, go to the Help menu in Outlook and click on the
"Microsoft Office Online" item; after the web page loads, find the "Check
for updates" link and follow the instructions. Apparently, the normal
Windows Update procedure does not cover Office updates, so you have to do
this manually. Please note that you may have to download a small ActiveX
control from the site to handle the update.

HTH
Pat Lenahan

o-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
Jerry Neufeld
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 9:13 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: real spam


  Good morning folks.

  To my knowledge, there is absolutely no fool-proof way to block spam with
either Outlook Express or Outlook via message rules handling. Although one
can write as many rules as one wishes for incoming documents with specific
attributes, it is impossible to know in advance what many such messages may
look like in terms of from lines or subject line content. Our ISP, Rogers
AT&T here in Canada helps by attempting to identify spam and labeling
subject lines with the word [bulk] within brackets. But, for reasons
mentioned, some bulk messages are ones we want, most not, and many spam
messages get through their detection system. The only fool-proof system I
know of is to subscribe to annoying spam filter systems which blocks all
incoming mail that has not been previously authorized by the user, resulting
in annoying delays and messages that often never get received.

  Cheers,

  Jerry


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Judith Bron
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:07 PM
    Subject: Re: real spam


    I can understand these rules but how will the computer know when such a
spam message shows upp?  Judith
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: RCZ Enterprise
      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 5:14 AM
      Subject: Re: real spam


      Hello!

      To create a particular rule:
      1. I assumed that you still have the old message of the SPAM.
      2. Open the message.
      3. Once it is open, press Alt + M, and look for the "Create rule from
message...."
      4. There is a combo boxes which you will going to make a specific rule
for your messages.
      5. Don't do any modification to the first list.  Press Alt + A, to set
the commands.
      6. If you want to move the message to a specified folder, choose the
first item in the lists.  But, if you want to delete automatically the SPAM
message, just look for the delete message option in that lists.
      7. Once you found it, just press your space bar to check it.
      8. Press tab key once and press your down arrow key, to review your
rules.  If the first item was selected, "Move it to the specified folder",
you need to assign a folder.  Pressing enter on the selected description
will allow you to choose the folder.
      9. Once you are done, press tab key once, and type "SPAM rule".
      10. Tab to the ok button and hit your space bar.

      HTH
      Roden

      E-mail:
      d_zalameda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

      MSN Messenger:
      rodenzal@xxxxxxxxxxx

      Yahoo Messenger:
      r112478

      Skype name:
      rodenzal

      ----- Original Message -----
        From: Judith Bron
        To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:37 AM
        Subject: Re: real spam


        Roden, I'm using Outlook Express 6.  Judith
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: RCZ Enterprise
          To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:52 PM
          Subject: Re: real spam


          Hello Judith!

          Are you using Outlook Express or Ms. Outlook?  What version of
this email client do you have?
          Regards,

          Roden
          d_zalameda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

          Our Internet Gateway protects
          RCZ Enterprise and
          INTRACOM Philippines
            ----- Original Message -----
            From: Judith Bron
            To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
            Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 2:32 PM
            Subject: Re: real spam


            Thanks Rodin, If these are advertisements why aren't they in a
language that people can read?  Like I said, it wasn't English, German,
French or Spanish.  I also know enough Hebrew to know that this wasn't the
language either.  How do you create the rule that will delete these messages
from the inbox?  Thanks, Judith
              ----- Original Message -----
              From: RCZ Enterprise
              To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
              Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:53 AM
              Subject: Re: real spam


              Hello Judith!

              SPAMS are commercial adds from the internet.  I suggest that
delete all your SPAM messages and you can create a rule which will delete
your SPAM message automatically.
              Regards,

              Roden
              d_zalameda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

              Our Internet Gateway protects
              RCZ Enterprise and
              INTRACOM Philippines


                ----- Original Message -----
                From: Judith Bron
                To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 7:43 AM
                Subject: real spam


                I have been getting these emails that consist of a lot of
letters.  If it is a foreign language that I am not familiar with please
forgive me but to the best of my knowledge it is not German, French or
Spanish.  So far today I have blocked at least three senders.  Is anyone
else having these problems?  I have no clue as to where these spams are
originating.  Thanks, Judith

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