Re: reading by sentence with Jaws?
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:14:52 -0700
Hi Dave,
Thanks, but I'm quite aware of that. I was a sighted PC user for nearly
twenty years before I lost sight of these things and began to use jaws. All
I was saying was that I'd simply forgotten, the way I've forgotten the names
of some streets in my city for not having seen them in passing for too
long. I didn't forget that the streets were there, or where they ran to. So
I wasn't arguing with you in any substantive way. I get where you're coming
from, because another credentialed teacher on the lists tends also to
carefully describe and catalogue such things when proferring instruction in
a mailing list post. I respect that. But this wasn't where I was coming
from, if you will. Or no problem, as we say.
Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "dave_d0619" <dave_d0619@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: reading by sentence with Jaws?
As you are aware, if you were not running JAWS, the number pad does behave
as a number pad when the NUM LOCK is turned on and as a "Navigation" keypad
when the NUM LOCK is turned off.
Therefore the keys on the number pad are duplicates of the keys on the six
pack and the cursor cross located between the two keyboards.
The duel functions of the keys on the number pad is a throwback to the days
before the A T keyboard when the group of navigation keys located between
the qwerty and the number pad keyboards did not exist.
And, by the way, there were only 10 function keys on those keyboards.
When I teach JAWS, I teach the keystrokes as navigation keys, because that
is what you are doing when you read prior and next character, prior and next
word, etc. You are not using the number pad to enter numerical data into a
calculating program, for example.
Sincerely:
Dave Durber
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: reading by sentence with Jaws?
> Chris,
>
> I'm laughing. You're right, of course. But since I can't see that the 8
and
> 2 keys on the num pad also are up and down arrow keys, respectively, or at
> least I haven't seen them and noted that for about ten years by now, I
just
> blocked out of my mind that Dave had described them that way. I only think
> of the actual four pack of arrow keys when I think of arrow keys.
>
> That said, I don't think it matters all that much. After all, it's a very
> familiar Jaws thing to press Insert 8 (or num pad up arrow, if you prefer
to
> call it that) for previous line and Insert num pad 2 for next line. So I
> don't find it terribly bothersome to press alt rather than insert in
> combination with those same keys for this read by sentence thing, in any
> case.
>
> But it's all good, as they like to say these days. It's moot. It's six of
> one, half a dozen of the other. It's a matter of choice. there are a milli
on
> ways to do things in Jaws.It's a free country. Well, since this list is
> international, that's kind of figurative. Virtual. Whatever. As they like
to
> say. :-)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mullins, Chris" <Chris.Mullins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 7:39 AM
> Subject: RE: reading by sentence with Jaws?
>
>
> Dave's instructions stated the up/down arrows on the numpad, Negoslav is
> advocating using the other up/down arrows. I had to look twice to spot
> the difference!
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
>
> Chris Mullins
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Yardbird
> Sent: 03 July 2008 15:18
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: reading by sentence with Jaws?
>
> Isn't this exactly what Dave has just said, below, plus the paragraph
> commands? I don't see any difference.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Negoslav Sabev" <negi4a@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:01 AM
> Subject: Re: reading by sentence with Jaws?
>
>
> Even more eazier desktop commands for sentences are alt+numpad5, for the
> current, alt+up arrow for previous and alt+down arrow for nex sentence.
> HTH
> Negoslav
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dave_d0619" <dave_d0619@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:10 AM
> Subject: Re: reading by sentence with Jaws?
>
>
> > The following commands are the JAWS Sentence and Paragraph commands.
> >
> > <ALT+NUM PAD UP ARROW> - Reads the prior sentence.
> >
> > <ALT+NUM PAD 5> - Reads the Current sentence
> >
> > <ALT+NUM PAD DOWN ARROW> - Reads the next sentence.
> >
> > <CTRL+NUM PAD UP ARROW> - Reads the prior paragraph.
> >
> > <CTRL+NUM PAD 5> - Reads the current paragraph.
> >
> > <CTRL+NUM PAD DOWN ARROW> - Reads the next paragraph.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Sincerely:
> >
> > Dave Durber
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Troy Burnham" <homerun@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 10:06 AM
> > Subject: reading by sentence with Jaws?
> >
> >
> >> Hello All,
> >>
> >> Is there a key command for reading a sentence with Jaws? What I'm
> >> looking
> >> for specifically is to be able to read a sentence that I have just
> >> written
> >> to check for errors without having to move my cursor in the word
> >> processor
> >> that I use for my job.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Troy
> >>
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