Re: getting used to the new version of JAWS
- From: "Steve Vandecar" <cougars-den@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:39:44 -0700
Hi,
The only difference you will see between the laptop layout and the desktop
layout is that you have to hit the caps lock key twice to turn caps lock on and
that is a plus for me. The rest of the normal desktop keys all work the same
or they do for me also. I use the authorization disk I received from Freedom
Scientific when I need to install JAWS on a new computer so have never typed
the key in.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Cy Selfridge
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:45 AM
Subject: RE: getting used to the new version of JAWS
Rose,
I am in the same boat. I have used the standard desktop layout for the past
14 or so years and I do not need the hassle of the blamed laptop keyboard.
Further, I really do not like the feel or hand position of the Dell laptop so I
just plug in my USB standard keyboard and all is quite well thank you. (LOL)
I did finally install JAWS 9 from the *replacement* CD and I have to say that
FS could do a wee bit better in having the installation communicate a bit
better.
Also, having to enter that 20 digit authorization code is probably about as
stupid a thing as anything FS has done in some years. Why not just let the
installation communicate with FS to see if I am authorized? (Man, what a
concept - LOL)
Thank Heaven for Narrator!
Cy, the Ancient Okie...
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Rose Combs
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 10:03 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: getting used to the new version of JAWS
Well, I have spent the last ten years using the standard keyboard with the
number pad upwards to 60 hours a week, so that is why I have not really tried
hard to get used to the laptop keyboard.
Rose Combs
rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Mark Driesenga
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 9:04 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: getting used to the new version of JAWS
Well, they're really not that hard to remember. I mean, it's not too
difficult to keep in mind that jaws kay u, i, and o respectively read previous,
current, and next line, while jaws key j, k, and l respectively read previous,
current, and next word. Also, jaws key m, comma, and period read respectively
previous, current, and next character. If that's a little difficult get get
your head around, you can always use the numpad even while in the laptop layout
because you actually don't lose that ability anyway. the nice thing about the
laptop layout, which I use on both computers--one being a laptop, but the one I
currently use most of the time is a desktop--is that you're much more
efficient, since everything you could possibly need is pretty much right there.
Mark
"Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner."
----- Original Message -----
From: Rose Combs
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:50 AM
Subject: RE: getting used to the new version of JAWS
I hate laptop layout, I use a USB keyboard on my laptop and set it to
desktop, I could never remember the laptop layout. I can't really even use the
laptop without my standard keyboard, none of those commands seem to stick for
me.
Rose Combs
rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Roger Levine
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:28 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: getting used to the new version of JAWS
Hi,
I concur with your statements about the keyboard. In fact FS suggested
using the laptop layout with a desktop keyboard several versions ago. I
personally use a USD desktop keyboard with a laptop set to laptop layout. I am
running Jaws 9 with XP pro and find the keyboard layout very convenient.
Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Driesenga
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: getting used to the new version of JAWS
Well, the main reason they got rid of the classic layout is because of
key combinations such as alt i and alt o if you came across buttons or menu
items that had those shortcuts. When in classica layout, you were forced to
pass keys through, which actually takes longer to do, actually, because by the
time you have four or five keystrokes, you could have had only one or two done.
Actually, I think you shouldn't have too much trouble switching, actually.
and pressing the capslock key twice to activate it is actually more of an
advantage than it is a disadvantage--think of all the problems you would have
if you accidentally hit the capslock key and didn't know it. And besides, it's
actually becoming more and more of a better option even on regular desktop
keyboards simply because when typing, it's far easier to reach for the capslock
key than it is to fumble around for the keypad. and making the switch, as I
do, between two different machines--one a desktop and the other a laptop--makes
it much easier if you just use the laptop layout anyway. And besides, you
don't lose the numpad functionality even with the laptop layout, so actually,
I'd say just go ahead and make the switch. It probably won't take you only an
hour, if that, to get used to having to tap the capslock key twice to activate
and deactivate it anyway. really isn't that difficult, since that's really the
only change you have to deal with. It could be much, much worse! Mark
"Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner."
----- Original Message -----
From: Patricia
To: JAWS users list
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:31 PM
Subject: re: getting used to the new version of JAWS
Hi:
just thought I would put in my two cents here as well.
I've had JAWS 9 installed on my computer since before Christmas, and
admit i have only used it once or twice. I, too have to get used to it, and the
thing that is turning me off is not the fact that I have to get used to a new
configuration as in the way a dialogue such as the verbosity dialogue is set
up, for me it's the fact thatFS got rid of the classic laptop layout. For me it
just isn't practical to switch to JAWS 9 when I'm wanting speed and accuracy.
Does anyone know why the change? there was no explanation. I know that they've
had the regular laptop setting for some time now, but I just never swithed
because classic was what I had become accustomed to. I've heard from others
that the regular layout is better and that I will get used to it quickly but
when you are a student and you're looking for speed it isn't always appropriate
to start learning a whole new layout when you're trying to do your schoolwork
as well.
I don't know, just my thoughts. I would have loved to have a little
more explanation as to why FS got rid of the classic laptop layout. If it were
kept I know I would have been switched to JAWS 9 a long time ago. but that will
be a summer project, I think. and the other thing Ihate about the regular
laptop layout is that when you press the capslock key, because that is now your
JAWS key you have to press it twice to activate writing in upper case letters,
which doesn't make for a fluid transition for me personally. how I wish Ihad
my desktop in these circumstances!
Patricia
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