RE: creating accessible documents
- From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@xxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 11:13:40 -0400
It's a format full of paradoxes. For instance, P stands for portable,
but that does not mean small. Page for page, it's always considerably
larger than a Word document, not to mention HTML. However, it's the
lingua franca right now, and can cross platforms with a single bound.
From the accessibility standpoint, the coolest AR version ever, was 4.0,
the last version with a special accessibility add in. It handled
documents of any size with ease, paged down automatically, and behaved
in a generally exemplary manner; I still miss it. I tried Fox Reader,
after reading several glowing reviews, but it's a bust as far as we are
concerned.
Ted
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Alex Midence
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 9:24 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: creating accessible documents
Why do people like pdf's so much anyway? I've always found them to be
a real pain in the rear to navigate with Jaws. I frequently get into
situations with them where Jaws just freezes up or gets unresponsive.
I stay away from them as much as I can. If you want a truly cool save
as feature for making a long word document easily navigable with Jaws,
have your prof save it as a single-page html document with a .mht
extension. You'd be able to just navigate through it using jaws'
virtual cursor commands in your web browser. No need to mess with any
stinking pdf's. I do this a lot with rtf's I download from
webscriptions. I can still read the whole book with one jaws command
or, if I want to go chapter by chapter or heading by heading, I can.
Alex
On 6/4/10, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <Ted.Lisle@xxxxxx> wrote:
> What's more, and one of the others eluded to this in passing, most
> applications in 2007, including Word, can make PDF's on the fly with a
> simple converter, which can be downloaded from Microsoft, and becomes
> part of the save and convert menus. This was one of the long-awaited,
> and truly cool features of 2007.
>
> Ted
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Alex Midence
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 5:52 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: creating accessible documents
>
> Hi,
>
> You probably won't have much trouble with word or powerpoint or, even
> excel. Where you may have trouble is in PDF's. Not all of them are
> accessible since sometimes, they make an image of text instead of
> actual text. They scan a paper in and don't run it through
> recognition software to decode the picture into actual text. They
> just leave the picture up there. Sighted people can read that but
> screen reader users can not. I don't know of a place you can find a
> list of tips or something but, one thing is for sure. Your teachers
> need to know that you can't access screenshots or pictures of text.
> Anything they give you has to be a document containing actual text and
> not text converted into an image.
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> On 6/3/10, Rouillardmike@xxxxxxx <Rouillardmike@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> I am a student transitioning to ninth grade. I was looking for a
guide
> to
>> give to my teachers on how to create accessible documents for use
with
> jaws.
>> I want it to cover all types of documents including word,
PowerPoint,
> etc.
>> Does anyone know where I can find one?
>> Thanks!
>> Mike Rouillard
>>
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