first you have to change them in to a text file using wintrans. Then you can turn them in to mp3's using text aloud or you open book or kerz weil. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerry Hathaway To: JAWS LISTSERVE Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 9:22 AM Subject: converting brf files does anybody know how to change brf files to audio files and burn it onto a cd. thank yu for your assistance. Jerry