Hi, I'm definitely starting to think along the lines of an OCR program. Which one is recommended i currently don't have any. Thanks. Dave. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alan Clendinen Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 4:46 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: re: accessing a protected pdf document Dave, That empty PDF document probably contains text in a graphic, which JFW and Adobe Acrobat Reader cannot access. If you have an OCR program, you can open the PDF file with it and convert the graphical text into accessible text. Alan -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx