hi,are the display settings optimized for Jaws? I find this happens when either someone has put a background on the screen or someone has changed the color settings. Sometimes this happens when people use older software. I wonder if you can set up a user profile to lock these things in.
Christine----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:58 AM Subject: Re: Strange JAWS 10 issue
Ok. I was writing my message, and I am now, using a standard edit field you find in Outlook Express. There's no forms mode involved. As I arrow line by line I can read it fine. I can also read it fine when arrowing using the JAWS cursor. The video card is hardware that sends text and graphics to the screen, as we all know. JAWS (and other screen readers that use similar drivers) intercepts what's being sent from the video card and thus interprets what's being sent. If the driver isn't present, or it's corrupted or something, then JAWS can't intercept things like this edit field or what's currently on the screen using the JAWS cursor.-- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Join TAFN by visiting www.tafn.org.uk.----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Strange JAWS 10 issueChris,I'm not sure I understand your answer. Best I can imagine, it sounds as if the problem is that when you're in an edit field, Forms Mode doesn't work,so if you want to be able to type something there you switch to the Jaws cursor? I never encountered such a problem or had to try such a solution. Anyway, when you restart your computer and everything in the jaws programming falls back into place, then does something like this behave normally and announce that it's an edit field, and allow you to go into Forms Mode? Or does the kind of edit field you're talking about neverpresent itself as an edit field in the first place, except that you know itis, somehow, and deal with it using the Jaws cursor?lastly, why is the term video or video card involved? Is that just a normalpart of jaws operation, or does it mean that this type of edit field is a graphic, not an HTML-coded screen element? If my question isn't clear toyou, I won't mind if someone else replies, someone who's familiar with thissort of issue. I'm not trying to hassle you. I just don't understand the reply very well but I might if it were written a little differently. Thanks very much.----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 9:16 AM Subject: Re: Strange JAWS 10 issueSure. Now, I could just navigate, using the JAWS cursor, what I'm writing. Ican also read back what I'm writing in this edit field. If I unload and reload JAWS, however, I can do none of this. This is why I think it's avideo intercept issue, as the video intercept driver intercepts text beingsent from the graphics card to the computer. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Join TAFN by visiting www.tafn.org.uk.----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:12 PM Subject: Re: Strange JAWS 10 issueChris,I am sorry that I don't know enough about this sort of thing to offer you any advice, but I do hope you can tell me something. I don't know anythingat all about the phrase "video intercept," though I vaguely remember it hassomething to do with how jaws picks up information from coding and rendersit into speech. But I'm just saying that. I think it's obvious that I don't get what's going on with this thing at all. That confession made, may I ask how you know there's a video intercept problem that you're now troubled by? By which I mean, how does it manifest itself? This is not a sophisticated question requiring complicated discussion. I am simply asking if you wouldn't mind describing what goes wrong for you when you use Jaws after exiting it and restarting it, without rebooting the system, as you say? What happens that's wrong? And what about this tells you it's a video intercept issue? again, I'm looking for basic education. Not arguing about anything. Hope that's clear. And sorry about the hassle you're having. Joel From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 8:30 AM Subject: Strange JAWS 10 issue Hello all, I'm using the latest JAWS 10 running under Windows XP Home Edition SP3. The computer is a Dell Dimention DIM2400 desktop PC which is owned by my fatherfor all of us to use. The problem is that JAWS works as expected, howeverwhen I unload and reload, JAWS behaves as if no video intercept wasinstalled and will behave this way until I restart the PC. I looked at the video intercept information, and all appears to be well. Does anyone know what's going on here? If this helps I'm using a guest account rather thanmy own administrative account. Please advise. Thanks. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Join TAFN by visiting www.tafn.org.uk. -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. 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