Silent delete and using outlook
- From: "john R. Vaughn" <jrvaughn44@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 08:50:13 -0400
My point is that Outlook is a different program from Outlook express. When
I switched to Outlook a number of years ago, I finally realized that many of
the OE key strokes that worked on OE did not work or work the same way as in
Outlook.
And frankly, since moving to Windows 7 six months ago and I had to abandon
using Windows mail/OE for my personal mail, that I indeed have some work to
do in relearning Outlook now that I am retired and if I want to use Outlook
effectively.
I was also reminding Jaws users of the Jaws help system including the one
referenced, that help is available within the Jaws program for many commonly
used products. This help includes a listing of keyboard short cuts, helpful
hints in setting up a program to work with Jaws as well as some information
on actually using the program.
As to the Control key plus D keystroke not talking, no the help topic would
not have told you that the control D does not elicit a verbal reply when
using the key stroke, the fact that this was the key stroke in fact, was
noted in the list of jaws keyboard commands.John
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 10:14 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: silent delete
I believe you mean insert-F1 twice quickly.
As for the point of your message, are you suggesting JAWS help would have
answered Dorothy's question about whether JAWS reports that a message has
been deleted? I doubt it.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of John R. Vaughn
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 7:44 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: silent delete
List, if you want to use Outlook, please read the Jaws help topics (insert
key plus F2 pressed twice quickly while in the outlook program In box) for
using Outlook. It is similar or rather, outlook express is similar to
Outlook and there are some rather significant differances in using outlook.
I am using both programs but am about to switch to Windows 7 on both
computers which means I will have to use Outlook on both computers as
Outlook Express no longer exists if you use Windows 7 as your operating
system. I am still using Outlook 2003 but may have to move up to Outlook for
2007 or more likely Outlook 2010 when it is fully supported by the folks at
Freedom Scientific. Again, please take advantage of the help systems in
using Jaws by pressing that insert key plus F1 key at any point while using
Jaws to help explain the page/window you are using at that point in time.
There are usually links to jaws short cut keys plus other helpful
information or links to other help topics. John in sunny southwest florida
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 5:51 PM
Subject: RE: silent delete
John,
I can confirm what you write here. In addition to the control-d combination
for deleting within a message, the delete key works when the focus is on the
message in the list. But again, JAWS doesn't verbalize "message deleted," at
least not by default.
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of john R. Vaughn
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 5:20 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: silent delete
Dorothy, the key to delete a message in Outlook is control key plus letter
D. And for some reason, to my recollection, jaws has never said "delete
message" when you delete a message as it does in outlook express or windows
mail, the Windows Vista replacement for Outlook express. Not sure why this
is, but as a long time user of both Outlook and OE think this is the way it
is. John
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Dorothy Ingram-Gorban
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 1:35 PM
To: org, jfw@freelists.
Subject: silent delete
dear list, on my old laptop using Outlook express, if I delete something
Jaws says delete, however on my windows 7 dell 64 bit using ms outlook,the
delete key is silent, it is not my keyboard since I have changed that.
surely for the latest version of office Microsoft,or Jaws would not have
overlooked speaking it, would it be Jaws fault or microsofts? many thanks
dorothy
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