RE: Silent delete and using outlook
- From: "john R. Vaughn" <jrvaughn44@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 14:06:06 -0400
Dorothy, I use windows 7 and outlook 2003 and no Jaws does not say deleted
when using the delete message command (control key plus letter D while in a
message) or that same command or the delete key alone while in the message
list when deleting a message.
that is the way it has always been. I guess you could write Freedom
Scientific and ask them to add that feature as it was in OE.
. I am sure FS is aware of this and I can only suspect that there must be
some good reason for things working the way it does.
good luck
John
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Dorothy Ingram-Gorban
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 1:45 PM
To: org, jfw@freelists.
Subject: Re: Silent delete and using outlook
john I have tried a reply to sender and hope it was readable. I see you
are
using Msoutlook 2003,well if when you try it on windows 7, if it speaks the
delete word do let me know. I mean when actually deleting an item,you can
find it other times,I think someone has forgotten to do what they could have
done, would that be fs or not ?
dorothy
----- Original Message -----
From: "john R. Vaughn" <jrvaughn44@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 1:50 PM
Subject: Silent delete and using outlook
> My point is that Outlook is a different program from Outlook express.
> When
> I switched to Outlook a number of years ago, I finally realized that many
> of
> the OE key strokes that worked on OE did not work or work the same way as
> in
> Outlook.
> And frankly, since moving to Windows 7 six months ago and I had to abandon
> using Windows mail/OE for my personal mail, that I indeed have some work
> to
> do in relearning Outlook now that I am retired and if I want to use
> Outlook
> effectively.
> I was also reminding Jaws users of the Jaws help system including the one
> referenced, that help is available within the Jaws program for many
> commonly
> used products. This help includes a listing of keyboard short cuts,
> helpful
> hints in setting up a program to work with Jaws as well as some
> information
> on actually using the program.
> As to the Control key plus D keystroke not talking, no the help topic
> would
> not have told you that the control D does not elicit a verbal reply when
> using the key stroke, the fact that this was the key stroke in fact, was
> noted in the list of jaws keyboard commands.John
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 10:14 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: silent delete
>
> I believe you mean insert-F1 twice quickly.
>
> As for the point of your message, are you suggesting JAWS help would have
> answered Dorothy's question about whether JAWS reports that a message has
> been deleted? I doubt it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of John R. Vaughn
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 7:44 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: silent delete
>
> List, if you want to use Outlook, please read the Jaws help topics (insert
> key plus F2 pressed twice quickly while in the outlook program In box) for
> using Outlook. It is similar or rather, outlook express is similar to
> Outlook and there are some rather significant differances in using
> outlook.
> I am using both programs but am about to switch to Windows 7 on both
> computers which means I will have to use Outlook on both computers as
> Outlook Express no longer exists if you use Windows 7 as your operating
> system. I am still using Outlook 2003 but may have to move up to Outlook
> for
> 2007 or more likely Outlook 2010 when it is fully supported by the folks
> at
> Freedom Scientific. Again, please take advantage of the help systems in
> using Jaws by pressing that insert key plus F1 key at any point while
> using
> Jaws to help explain the page/window you are using at that point in time.
> There are usually links to jaws short cut keys plus other helpful
> information or links to other help topics. John in sunny southwest florida
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 5:51 PM
> Subject: RE: silent delete
>
> John,
>
> I can confirm what you write here. In addition to the control-d
> combination
> for deleting within a message, the delete key works when the focus is on
> the
> message in the list. But again, JAWS doesn't verbalize "message deleted,"
> at
> least not by default.
>
> _____
>
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of john R. Vaughn
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 5:20 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: silent delete
>
> Dorothy, the key to delete a message in Outlook is control key plus letter
> D. And for some reason, to my recollection, jaws has never said "delete
> message" when you delete a message as it does in outlook express or
> windows
> mail, the Windows Vista replacement for Outlook express. Not sure why this
> is, but as a long time user of both Outlook and OE think this is the way
> it
> is. John
>
> _____
>
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Dorothy Ingram-Gorban
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 1:35 PM
> To: org, jfw@freelists.
> Subject: silent delete
>
> dear list, on my old laptop using Outlook express, if I delete something
> Jaws says delete, however on my windows 7 dell 64 bit using ms outlook,the
> delete key is silent, it is not my keyboard since I have changed that.
> surely for the latest version of office Microsoft,or Jaws would not have
> overlooked speaking it, would it be Jaws fault or microsofts? many thanks
> dorothy
>
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