RE: Repair on jaws 8 How?

  • From: "Robert S. Batchelor" <leehigh73@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 04:06:12 -0500

It was just a suggestion to make sure the playing field was equal in hopes
it would give a good even start to trouble-shooting this issue better



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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 4:05 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Repair on jaws 8 How?

Robert,
Word repair is even more risky--it requires 
original installation media or the location 
where you've had the installation source.
Cheers,
Joseph PddS.  Did you try using Word with 
JAWS versions other than 8.0?

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Robert S.  Batchelor" 
<leehigh73@xxxxxxxxxxx
>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Date sent: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 03:55:40 -0500
>Subject: RE: Repair on jaws 8 How?

>Repairing JAWS might not be a bad suggestion, 
after doing that and it didn't
>help did you try doing a Word repair too?



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>From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>Of Chris Skarstad
>Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:42 AM
>To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: Repair on jaws 8 How?

>hi.  Ok, now we might be getting somewhere.  
from your message you say
>this only happens with word in JAWS 8.  so 
clearly, JAWS 8 and word
>aren't getting along.  That's beyond my 
scope, because I don't
>usually use word to write things down.  You 
might try biting the
>bullet and getting ahold of FS tech support 
and just explain to them
>exactly what you told us, how JAWS 8 and word 
don't seem to get
>along, yet when you use JAWS 7.1 and word 
together it works fine.  If
>those guys are worth the money they're paid, 
they *should* be able to help
>you.
>Now as for these sticky keys, have you done 
anything with them?
>because sticky keys probably aren't the issue 
here, it's just JAWS
>being stupid and not acting like it should.
>I've been using JAWS since 1998 back when 
version 3.0 was out and
>I've never once used sticky keys in my daily 
life, and if I have
>nobody told me!
>Clearly this is a JAWS 8 only thing.  If you 
repaired JAWS and it
>still doesn't read word documents properly, 
repairing from the CD
>isn't gonna do any good, because you'd just 
be running the exact same
>program and doing the exact same type of 
thing.  All the CD is is a
>convenience type of thing.  it just lets you 
stick a CD in your drive
>and do it that way, rather than using the 
version that's on the
>website.  lots of people seem to think that 
the version that's on the
>cd and the one on he website are different, 
and 99.9% of the time
>that's nnot really the case.  the only thing 
that's different about
>the CD version of JAWS you might get when a 
new version comes out is
>it has training materials on it, and those 
can also be downloaded
>from the website as well, so again, you 
aren't really gaining
>anything from re-installing it from the CD.  
it's just doing the exact
>same thing you did earlier.

>That's about all i have for ya, maybe someone 
else can help?





>At 08:28 PM 2/1/2007, you wrote:

>>Thank you so much for taking the time to 
direct me in this repair
>>thing.  And its true that we should learn all 
this stuff up front but
>>how much can a person jam in his brain?

>>I followed each step, redd the entire repair 
thing, shut down booted
>>up and reloaded a .doc file in Word and 
Insert down arrow key will
>>still not read.

>>Even changed my key board in case it was bad.

>>So went into Insert F2 managers, to keyboard 
and to the say all key
>>settings.  I reset them as Insert down arrow 
and it still won't work.

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>>So to check all this out I shut off 8 and 
started up 7.1 and it
>>works perfect!!!

>>So what does all this mean for me?  Well now, 
spent a half hour on
>>phone with FS techs yesterday and the one guy 
took me on a wild
>>goose chase and finally said he cold not help 
me even do a repair
>>because I did not know where the file was.  
You gave me perfect
>>directions and it was easy to follow them and 
I  thank you.  But
>>still can't get 8 to do what I want it to.

>>So for now, I'll wait until disks arrive, 
remove 8 and start over.

>>But there might be a setting either in sticky 
keys or ? but this is
>>really getting me upset.  I do a lot of 
research and reading and I
>>only upgraded for the SAPI vvoices, not this 
hassle.

>>It looks like that this little problem ain't 
gonna go away
>>easy,  and life won't be the same here until 
that say all key begins
>>doing its thing for me!



>>So I'll just make this a challenge for 
everyone out there and
>>hopefully we'll figure it out.

>>  By the way, when doing a repair, it asks 
you if you want to load
>> in any other synthesizer , should I add in 
the sappy or is it already
>loaded?

>>So take care all and hope someone can come up 
with a reasonable
>>reason why say all will not work?

>>Oh yeah, once I shut down, there came up a 
really strange voice
>>which spoke up while pc was shutting down and 
reloaded.  It might
>>have said something like speak now or now 
speak, what the heck was
>>that? Is that something new in jaws 8?

>>  MMM

>>MMM

>>On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 12:59:21 -0600 Chris 
Skarstad
>><<mailto:toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx>toonhead@runbox.
com> writes:
>>> hi.  The only person who would know that is 
your technition.  This is

>>> why I think it's so incredibly important to 
at least learn this
>>> stuff
>>> from the beginning, because when you're in a 
situation like this,
>>> you're kind of relying on others for help 
and that's not cool.  ok,

>>> if you wanna try and find the file yourself, 
do the following.


>>> 1.  Go to the start menu.

>>> 2.  Go to the search sub menu.  You may have 
to press your up or down

>>> arrow keys to get to it but it's there.


>>> 3.  Press enter once and you'll land on the 
choice that says, for
>>> files or folders...


>>> 4.  now press your tab key until you hear, 
all files and folders
>>> button.
>>> 5.  Press your space bar and you'll get an 
edit box to search your
>>> drives.
>>> The file name you're looking for is:


>>> J8.0.423U_ILM.exe

>>> I put that on a separate line so you would 
be able to read it
>>> carefully.
>>> Just use your left and right arrow keys and 
you'll be able to figure

>>> out exactly how it's spelled.

>>> 6.  type the file name, *exactly* as it 
appears into the edit box
>>> that says, all or part of the file name, 
edit.

>>> 7.  Now press your tab key 7 times and 
you'll land on the search
>>> button.  Press your space bar, and the 
search will start.  to find
>>> your results, press your tab key and you'll 
find a list view.  it'll

>>> probably say 0 items, but that's only 
because it hasn't found
>>> anything yet.  But with luck it will.
>>>   8.  Ok, now if you were successful, you 
found where your JAWS
>>> instalation file is, and now it's time to 
repair JAWS.
>>>   9.  Press enter when you're focused on the 
file.  You'll probably
>>> get a security warning, but you can bypass 
that by pressing alt plus
>>> r.
>>> 10.  Ok, now if things have gone right, the 
instalation screen will

>>> have recognized that you have a version of 
JAWS on your machine, and

>>> it's giving you the different options, 
modify, repair, or
>>> remove.  choose the repair option and JAWS 
will do a repair on
>>> itself.  If it asks you to reboot your 
computer, please do so.  Then

>>> when you come back up your version of JAWS 
*should* be at the
>>> factory defaults.

>>> I hope this helps.












>>>    At 12:22 PM 2/1/2007, you wrote:
>>>>Ok, someone got back and thanks, however, for 
now jjust working
>>> with
>>>>the downloaded version...  where do I find 
the installation file you

>>>>downloaded from FS when I originally 
installed 8?
>>>>Its on the c: but what is it called or is it 
a specific file under

>>>>all the jaws files or waht and thanks again.  
I'll start loking for

>>>>it.  My disks should show up in a few days, 
but in the mean time
>>> Jaws 8 is hell!
>>>>mmm

>>>>version 8

>>>>On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 11:04:10 -0400 Ryan 
MacIsaac
>>>><<<mailto:jrmacisaac@xxxxxxxxxxx>mailto:jrmac
isaac@xxxxxxxxxxx><m
>> 
ailto:jrmacisaac@xxxxxxxxxxx>jrmacisaac@eastl
ink.ca> writes:

>>>>Hi,

>>>>To do a repair of Jaws 8, simply put the Jaws 
installation CD in
>>>>your CD drive or run the installation file 
you downloaded from FS
>>>>when you originally installed version 8.  
When you do this on a
>>>>system that already has Jaws 8 installed, you 
will get options to
>>>>repair or modify the installation of Jaws.  
Select the repair option

>>>>and hopefully this will fix your problem.

>>>>Regards,

>>>>Ryan

>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: 
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>> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On

>>>>Behalf Of 
<mailto:tickpub@xxxxxxxx>tickpub@xxxxxxxx
>>>>Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:12 AM
>>>>To: 
<mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Subject: Re: Repair on jaws 8 How?

>>>>Back again about jaws repair: Went to jaws 8 
menu, tools, and to
>>>>remove jaws.  Then as you said another menu 
came forth but it only
>>>>had two radio buttons there.

>>>>  Remove jaws only

>>>>And

>>>>Remove jaws and shared components

>>>>  Nothing else but Next and cancel

>>>>No sign of repair.

>>>>I was told that 8 has no repair menu unless 
you find it somewhere
>>>>buried in the jaws files???
>>>>MMM
>>>>On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:49:25 -0600 Chris 
Skarstad
>>>><<<mailto:toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx>mailto:toonhead
@runbox.com><mailto:
>> toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx>toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx> 
writes:
>>>>> hi.  The version that is on the CD is the 
exact same version as
>>> the
>>>>> one you download off the website, , accept 
it doesn't have the
>>> sapi
>>>>> 5
>>>>> voices.   try this.

>>>>> 1.  go to your start menu.

>>>>> 2.  then go to programs.

>>>>> 3.  Go to JAWS 8.0 sub menu, you may need to 
press j several
>>> times
>>>>> to
>>>>> get there.
>>>>> 4.  go to tools sub menu, and then
>>>>> to the uninstall JAWS option.  Now we're not 
going to uninstall
>>> JAWS,

>>>>> but this is where the repair option is.
>>>>> so press enter on uninstall JAWS and wait 
for the screen to come
>>> up.

>>>>> you'll get a set of radio buttons, i believe 
it is.  your
>>> choices
>>>>> will
>>>>> be modify, repair, or remove.  You'll want 
to repair JAWS which
>>>>> basically sets it back to the factory 
defaults as if it'd never
>>> been

>>>>> installed before.
>>>>> After this process is complete, you'll 
probably be asked to
>>> reboot
>>>>> your computer, so do that.  when you come 
back up you'll have a
>>> fresh

>>>>> install of JAWS 8.0 as if it'd never been 
installed before.  One
>>>>> thing
>>>>> I should note, you haven't received your CDS 
yet.  So when you
>>>>> receive them, the only one you're going to 
need to use is the
>>> one
>>>>> with the SAPI 5 voices on it.  You do not 
need to re-install
>>> JAWS
>>>>> from
>>>>> your CD at all.  In fact you'd just be doing 
what you're going to
>>> do

>>>>> and your version would be repaired or 
modified again and you
>>> don't
>>>>> want to do that.  so when your cds arrive, 
don't reinstall JAWS
>>>>> again.  Just install your SAPI 5 voices and 
you'll be good.






>>>>> At 11:21 PM 1/31/2007, you wrote:
>>>>>>Hi and followed your instructions and nothing 
about repair cold
>>> be
>>>>> found.
>>>>>>I tried several times and there is tools, 
remove, rarely? auto
>>>>> updates
>>>>>>and a few other things that show but no 
repair.
>>>>>>So far 8 for me is a real bummer.  Maybe when 
I get the disks
>>> it
>>>>> might do
>>>>>>better?
>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>MMM
>>>>>>On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:52:26 -0800 Joseph Lee

>>>><<<mailto:joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxxxxx>mailto
:joseph.lee22590@bli
>> 
ndsea.com><mailto:joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxxxx
>joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> m> writes:
>>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>> You'll need to go to Control Panel and 
select
>>>>>>> Aed or Remove Programs.  Select Freedom
>>>>>>> Scientific JAWS 8.0, then press TAB until 
you
>>>>>>> hear change button.  Press enter.  It should
>>>>>>> then present a dialog and will ask you what
>>>>>>> to do.  Press enter on Repair option.  It
>>>>>>> should repair itself and it will present
>>>>>>> Finish dialog.  Press enter on Finish 
button.
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Joseph

>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
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>>>>>>>>Date sent: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:12:34 -0800
>>>>>>>>Subject: Repair on jaws 8 How?

>>>>>>>>Yes, need to do a repair on my new 8, how do
>>>>>>> I do this for the repair is
>>>>>>>>no longer under the menues in programs?
>>>>>>>>MMM
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