Re: Mmessage being before the message itself in the message body - was - Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey

  • From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:28:00 -0000

You're right, I was!  It's just coincidence, so, that on that other list - the 
duxuser list, also on freelists - the word 'message' appears at the top of many 
[Outlook user's] messages.  

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Yardbird 
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 5:48 PM
  Subject: Re: Mmessage being before the message itself in the message body - 
was - Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


  I think the person was just joking, John.  Maybe not, but that's how it 
struck me.  Have a nice Sunday.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Ramsey 
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 9:33 AM
  Subject: RE: Mmessage being before the message itself in the message body - 
was - Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


  I am using outlook and do not have any message being before the message, so I 
don't think it has anything to do with outlook trying to get one to change 
email clients.

  Take care,

  John



  -----Original Message-----
  From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Flor Lynch
  Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 9:17 PM
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: Mmessage being before the message itself in the message body - was - 
Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey



  Hi Yardbird,

  Do you also have Microsoft Outlook on your computer?  If you don't, you may 
not get the message word in front of your own messages.  Microsoft Outlook is 
begging or waiting for the chance to beg to be one's email client!  



    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Flor Lynch 

    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

    Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:09 AM

    Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey



    This 'message' business has been going on with earlier versions of JAWS in 
use as well, maybe even as far back as JAWS5, possibly before.  It could be a 
freelists html-to-text conversion thing, as well.  For now, I don't think it a 
JAWS/HTML issue; though possibly the presence [and non-convergence with OE when 
it is used] of Outlook and its html has a role in it.  Heck, it's almost the 
same as Outlook Express putting "Original Message" before the message you're 
replying to.  Anyway, everybody sure gets the 'message'!  



      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Rick Harmon 

      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

      Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 12:48 AM

      Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey



      I use HTML for my messages in OE.  I believe and can't be certain though 
      that it has something to do with JAWS and the way its now handleing HTML 
      code.  At the top of HTML pages you will see JAWS read the title that is 
      coded into the HTML page.  I suspect that message is the title of OE's 
HTML 
      coded messages.  But it's really just a guess at this point.

      Rick

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      >From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
      To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
      Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 7:40 PM
      Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


      Rick,

      First of all, you said it!  Narrator is no fun to use, at least for me.
      It's really horrible to mess with.  I don't understand half of what it 
says,
      and I don't know the basic commands for navigating or doing stuff.  So 
let's
      go, FS, and fix this bug!

      Also, Rick, may as well ask:  That word "message" is at the top of *your*
      every post.  So, then, can you account for its presence?  Do you have
      something in your email program that heads every one of your outgoing
      messages with the word "Message," for some reason?

      Thanks.
      mee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Harmon"
      <rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
      To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
      Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 4:30 PM
      Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


      MessageAlex,

      I hope FS is able to solve this problem.  It's not always convenient to 
use
      narrator instead of JAWS.

      Rick

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Alex Stone
        To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 7:24 PM
        Subject: RE: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


        Rick, Don't worry about it, I'd have been saying exactly the same things
      as you were if it wasn't me having the problem.
        Cheers.
        Alex
        -----Original Message-----
        From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On 
Behalf
      Of Rick Harmon
        Sent: 26 November 2006 00:05
        To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


        lol, its ok, I swore up and down that it wasn't a JAWS issue.  Just 
think
      how I feel now.

        Rick

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Betsey Doane
          To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 7:03 PM
          Subject: RE: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


          Wow--I wrote my post before I saw this; just back from Thanksgiving
      holiday and going through my first pass of over 200 messages :-) Betsey
      Doane



      
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          From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
      Behalf Of Rick Harmon
          Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 6:58 PM
          To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


          Well my apologies then, it must be something to do with the way JAWS 
is
      handleing the keyboard now.  Very puzzleing but if narater worked then 
it's
      definately a JAWS issue.

          Rick

            ----- Original Message ----- 
            >From: Alex Stone
            To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
            Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 6:27 PM
            Subject: RE: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


            Rick, You are indeed quite correct, doing it with narrator worked a
      treat, and I now have the shortcut key I wanted all along ctrl+shift+j.
            I'll send freedom Scientific a message about it.
            Cheers.
            Alex
            -----Original Message-----
            From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
      Behalf Of Rick Harmon
            Sent: 25 November 2006 17:41
            To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
            Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


            Alex,

            Try unloading JAWS 8 with Insert + F4 and using narrator with 
Windows
      key + U  and see if you can change the properties successfully.  If you 
can
      then JAWS has something to do with it.  IF not then its something else.

            Rick

              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: Alex Stone
              To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
              Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 8:48 AM
              Subject: RE: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


              John, Yes, many many times!
              Cheers.
              Alex
              -----Original Message-----
              From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
      Behalf Of John Brewer
              Sent: 24 November 2006 23:55
              To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
              Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


              Alex have you tried another ShortCut Key?
              John
                ----- Original Message ----- 
                From: Alex Stone
                To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 5:13 PM
                Subject: RE: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


                Rick, Have you been following this thread.  I'm sick and tired 
of
      the number of times I've had to explain that I've checked all the desktop
      icons to make sure nothing has the keystroke assigned to it.  I've also 
used
      shortcut detective from the jfwlite website to determine that there is no
      shortcut on my system that has the ctrl+shift+j keystroke assigned to it.
                Cheers.
                Alex
                -----Original Message-----
                >From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
      Behalf Of Rick Harmon
                Sent: 24 November 2006 22:54
                To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


                I disagree,  JAWS has absolutely nothing to do with properties 
on
      a desktop icon.  That is either a MS issue or someone hasn't cleared the
      contro+Alt+j shortcut from another icon on the desktop.

                We can't blame every single issue to JAWS.

                Rick

                  ----- Original Message ----- 
                  >From: Alex Stone
                  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                  Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 5:45 PM
                  Subject: RE: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


                  Rich, I'm coming to the conclusion as others already have that
      it must be a jaws problem.
                  Cheers.
                  Alex
                  -----Original Message-----
                  From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Richard Sherman
                  Sent: 24 November 2006 22:38
                  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                  Subject: Re: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j hotkey


                  Hi Alex,
                  Gave it a shot and came up short. Darn. Will give it more
      thought.

                  Rich
                    ----- Original Message ----- 
                    From: Alex Stone
                    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                    Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 2:19 PM
                    Subject: RE: strange problem with jaws 8 and ctrl+alt+j 
hotkey


                    Richard, Unfortunately I find that that doesn't work either.
                    Cheers.
                    Alex



      
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