Flor, I know it feels amusing to think of it this way, but if it doesn't work as it should, it's a problem or a defect, not the result of various computers being naturally different from each other, for some reason. In my case, I haven't ever had any trouble setting, saving and using a hotkey for anything at all on a whole series of PCs running under Windows, from a 486 running Win 95 to a Pentium 1 running under Win 98 to my present one, a Pentium 4 PC with Windows XP Home/SP2 as its operating system. So when it doesn't work, it's a problem, and needs to either be solved or let go, if a person doesn't feel like bothering with it. But these things aren't peculiarities of PCs, as if they all have their own personalities. Something works, or it doesn't work. Honest. the problem may be mysterious, but it's just a problem, not something more vague than that. honest. ----- Original Message ----- From: Flor Lynch To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 3:17 PM Subject: Re: Maybe found solution to Alt/Ctr/J key behavior A problem sometimes (not just with JAWS, but other shortcuts) is that, yes, the shortcut key works once, or maybe even twice - until you restart the computer. Then it's gone; and when you go back to the shortcut tab there you find that the hot key field is none. Each computer, like each user, is different - unfortunately in the first case, fortunately in the second! ----- Original Message ----- From: Yardbird To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:33 PM Subject: Re: Maybe found solution to Alt/Ctr/J key behavior Morey, There's no connection between having Jaws start when you boot up your computer and also wanting to have a convenient way to launch it at other times. You see, for one reason or another, we often have to shut down Jaws while we're using our computers, because of one problem or another. Also, in my experience, there will be sighted friends who want to use the computer to check their email or whatever when they're visiting, and the computer behaves more normally for them if I just have them exit Jaws instead of simply turning down the volume. After which, of course, I want to relaunch it easily with the hotkey.So there are two reasons why it's handy, even necessary, to have an easy way to launch jaws when you're computer is already running, despite the fact that it may have loaded up automatically at first. Hope that helps. As far as your solution goes, that's interesting, but sure does need explanation, because that's not supposed to change anything at all. But it certainly was clever of you to discover it. ncecda4ry,aywith ----- Original Message ----- From: Morey Worthington To: JFW Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:16 AM Subject: Maybe found solution to Alt/Ctr/J key behavior Hello all, Installed 8.0. Removed short keys to other Jaws apps. Went to Options and checked start automatically. Went to short key in properties, and yes it would not hold. Just for the heck of it, went back to options and un-checked start automatically. Went back to shortcut key tab and then tried the "J" key in there, applied it. Pressed OK when window came back and checked if it , the shortcut key , was still there and it was. Shut down Jaws and then tried Alt/Ctr/J and it worked just fine. My way of thinking...If Jaws was going to be started automatically, then why would you need a shortcut key. Seemed to work for now. Give it a try and see what happens. HTH Morey Worthington -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.19/556 - Release Date: 11/28/2006 3:22 PM __________ NOD32 1887 (20061128) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.19/556 - Release Date: 11/28/2006 3:22 PM