Re: Maybe found solution to Alt/Ctr/J key behavior
- From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:41:17 -0000
To 'finish me off': I got version 8 today and installed it from the CD. I
_had to use narrator_ to get that shortcut working. Otherwise, any key I chose
either didn't take or lasted only a number of seconds, then was gone.
----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: Maybe found solution to Alt/Ctr/J key behavior
Different computer brands, different softwares interacting, and so on. I
only know from a lay person's point of view. That's my answer to your
'different strokes' point. ?Cheers.
----- Original Message -----
From: Yardbird
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:09 AM
Subject: Re: Maybe found solution to Alt/Ctr/J key behavior
Okay, well, I guess I just haven't experienced the same hassles, with Jaws
or with other applications. I'm sure I will, eventually. Maybe even once I
install Version 8. If something like that happens, at least I won't be
surprised. But, and you didn't directly address this, I still don't know in
what sense you mean different strokes for different computers. For instance,
if you had two PCs, each licensed to install Jaws 8, both running under Win XP,
and so forth, and you installed JFW 8 on both, then tried to set the
conventional Control Alt J hotkey in each, but it took in only one (and you
could verify that it wasn't still assigned to your earlier version, whether
you'd kept it on your hard drive or not), then that would speak to this idea of
different computers doing things differently.
Anyway, I don't care that much. Finally, I just care that you, and I and
everyone else here have a fair crack at getting our computers to work well for
us with Jaws, right? So I'm outta here on this subject,now.
fortrh
----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: Maybe found solution to Alt/Ctr/J key behavior
I haven't (yet) had the problem with JAWS (as I haven't installed JAWS8,
perhaps): but I have had the situation where certain shortcut keys would not
work with programs even though they were not assigned to any other program
shortcuts or to anything else on the computer, to my knowledge. the solution
was found to be to use other shortcut keys which did take. Others have
reported a situation worse than that with JAWS8, which however (as has been
specified on list) is capable of eventual resolution.
----- Original Message -----
From: Yardbird
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: Maybe found solution to Alt/Ctr/J key behavior
Flor,
I know it feels amusing to think of it this way, but if it doesn't work
as it should, it's a problem or a defect, not the result of various computers
being naturally different from each other, for some reason. In my case, I
haven't ever had any trouble setting, saving and using a hotkey for anything at
all on a whole series of PCs running under Windows, from a 486 running Win 95
to a Pentium 1 running under Win 98 to my present one, a Pentium 4 PC with
Windows XP Home/SP2 as its operating system. So when it doesn't work, it's a
problem, and needs to either be solved or let go, if a person doesn't feel like
bothering with it. But these things aren't peculiarities of PCs, as if they
all have their own personalities. Something works, or it doesn't work.
Honest. the problem may be mysterious, but it's just a problem, not something
more vague than that.
honest.
----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: Maybe found solution to Alt/Ctr/J key behavior
A problem sometimes (not just with JAWS, but other shortcuts) is that,
yes, the shortcut key works once, or maybe even twice - until you restart the
computer. Then it's gone; and when you go back to the shortcut tab there you
find that the hot key field is none. Each computer, like each user, is
different - unfortunately in the first case, fortunately in the second!
----- Original Message -----
From: Yardbird
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: Maybe found solution to Alt/Ctr/J key behavior
Morey,
There's no connection between having Jaws start when you boot up your
computer and also wanting to have a convenient way to launch it at other times.
You see, for one reason or another, we often have to shut down Jaws while
we're using our computers, because of one problem or another. Also, in my
experience, there will be sighted friends who want to use the computer to check
their email or whatever when they're visiting, and the computer behaves more
normally for them if I just have them exit Jaws instead of simply turning down
the volume. After which, of course, I want to relaunch it easily with the
hotkey.So there are two reasons why it's handy, even necessary, to have an easy
way to launch jaws when you're computer is already running, despite the fact
that it may have loaded up automatically at first.
Hope that helps.
As far as your solution goes, that's interesting, but sure does need
explanation, because that's not supposed to change anything at all. But it
certainly was clever of you to discover it.
ncecda4ry,aywith ----- Original Message -----
From: Morey Worthington
To: JFW
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:16 AM
Subject: Maybe found solution to Alt/Ctr/J key behavior
Hello all,
Installed 8.0. Removed short keys to other Jaws apps.
Went to Options and checked start automatically.
Went to short key in properties, and yes it would not hold.
Just for the heck of it, went back to options and un-checked start
automatically. Went back to shortcut key tab and then tried the "J" key
in
there, applied it. Pressed OK when window came back and checked if it ,
the
shortcut key , was still there and it was.
Shut down Jaws and then tried Alt/Ctr/J and it worked just fine.
My way of thinking...If Jaws was going to be started automatically,
then why
would you need a shortcut key.
Seemed to work for now.
Give it a try and see what happens.
HTH
Morey Worthington
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