Hi Brad, I know what you really mean. I went through that so many times and it's like running against the clock. I know it can be very frustrating because it doesn't even give you the time to breath. What a mess, I'm telling you! Here is what I do and what I recommend during my training sessions. What about creating your own help files for any program? You can then have a good cup of coffee or tea and explore the info without being rushed or held by the throat. You need to start a blank word processing session (Notepad in XP, WordPad elsewhere, Word or Corel WP), alt tab to the rebellious Help program, right click using Jaws in the info pane spot, choose Select All, right click again and select copy, alt tab to your word processor, press control v, hit Enter to create a blank line, add any comments for next help info if needed, alt tab back to the Help program, and continue you research using same copying procedure. When done, save your word processor file, and read it in peace with more individual control. Usually, I use control f to search or explore in a more friendly environment. Take care. Adam ----- Original Message ----- From: "BD" <bram4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "JFW List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 9:16 AM Subject: Jaws help not reading/scrolling Using JFW 5.x dongle version, pressing INS J, then going to help, and if I, for example, wish to look at help with popular programs, I'll arrow to it, right arrow to a program, then click or hit enter on it, and then F6 to view the next window containing the info, it will not read unless I use the Jaws cursor, and even then when I get to the bottom and put it back in PC cursor it will not scroll or move past what currently shows on the screen. It only will show that visible page and no more. In order to get it to read the entire file, I need to play with the focus to get it to read automatically, and then I had better listen very carefully as there is one shot to hear what is said. For a speech software package its own files are not very speech friendly and for a help file it isn't very helpful. What is the problem? Am I doing something wrong? I am following the directions given. Brad -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx