Robert, One question before I try making this adjustment. Are you fairly confident that doing this won't adversely affect Jaw's performance in any other context, away from Outlook Express? I wouldn't want to screw things up by accident. Also, if you're able to explain this without too much work, in what sense does "cursor" have to do with this issue? This may be a technically naive question, but where I'm coming from is the only kind of cursor I know to call by that name is what I used to see as the little highlight at the character or space I was at in, say, Word, while editing in a document. I suppose this isn't the more technical definition of a cursor, at least for the purposes of Jaws-related things? But what does it refer to, then? Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Hebert" <roberthebert@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:29 PM Subject: Re: Jaws 8 sometimes not speaking message move in Outlook express I was having a slight problem in this area similar to the one here and I did the following: In cursor options in the jaws configuration manager I changed my vertical carrot dimensions from 4 to 6. The default is 4 as Jaws will not recognize a vertical dimension less than 4. I noted that the o/e problem worked fine when read with Jaws version 5 which had a vertical carrot dimension of 6 and when I changed my Jaws 8 settings to 6, the problem resolved. Note: This is not a prior issue I requested help for re opening links from within an open message in O/E 7. That issue did, in fact, turn out to be a McAfee security settings issue. So, to change the vertical carrot dimension from 4 to 6, do the following: 1. Jaws configuration manager: (Insert 6) 2. Alt s for the set options menu. 3. arrow down to cursor options. 4. On cursor options tab over to vertical carrot dimension--the value will likely be on 4. 5. Try changing this value to 6, alt F-4 out of this menu. Say "yes" to save your settings and you're done. If this minor fix doesn't resolve your problem, simply put it back to 4 or whatever it had been. There seems to be so many minor tweeks that can affect how Jaws performs. Write down any settings changes you make so you can easily restore them if the change proves not to resolve your problem. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "JFW List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 1:17 PM Subject: Jaws 8 sometimes not speaking message move in Outlook express I often use the control shift v command to move a message from one folder to the other in Outlook Express. In my copy of Jaws 7, jaws would report my keystrokes and then speak the move dialogue, then speak as I navigated my OE folders until I got to the one where I wanted to move the message and pressed Enter. Now, in my new Jaws 8+ (it's the one that's on the site currently for download), very often Jaws will say nothing at all when I do this, even though because I'm experienced, I figured out how to check and get jaws to tell me where I'd wound up, and that the task was actuallyu in progress. A new Jaws user wouldn't think of this, though, so that's not very good. They'd just think their keystrokes hadn't taken. NowIf I hit Escape to cancel the task, and then start again, Jaws will usually behave normally the next time. But it happens often enough so that it's a pain. I'm sure in this case that there's nothing I could change in the way of settings. I just want to know, is this happening to a lot of people, also? For what it may matter, I'm using OE 6 under Win XP Home SP2, with the standard Windows display and nothing problematic in the way of any other settings or video stuff. -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. 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