there are a couple clean but very simple chat clients available on my grab bag site, set them and chat away on any IRC server. I started out on one of those myself before I ever turned windows messenger on and found it a lot more significant than messenger ever was. laters, elf Moderator, Blind Access Help Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises Specialists in customized computers and peripherals - own the might and majesty of a Alacorn! www.alacorncomputer.com proprietor, The Grab Bag, for blind computer users and programmers http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: JM Casey To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 6:26 PM Subject: Re: JAWS and Windows Messenger IRC works really well, depending on what client you use. I've gotten quite used to MIRC. Unfortunately it's not pretty enough for most people nowadays, so the system isn't used by as many as it used to be. TOo bad; I'll never understand why people would rather rely on centrally governed, corporate products and servers for their chat needs, but that's just the way of the internet in the early 21st century. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Edwards To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 11:43 PM Subject: RE: JAWS and Windows Messenger Interested to read Sugar's and others comments about the capabilities of windows messenger. But would also like to add/comment on chat sites in general with Jaws. I often use Skype but have to use an older version because it won't work with Jaws. Even the version I use has its problems. Jaws does, I think have serious problems or things that don't make sense to me. An example of this is that it does repeat itself and say things twice. Facebook is another example. You can't do open chat properly. Ok, it may be the fault of the website, but are there any chat facilities that we don't have to spend hours tweeking them? Interested to see what you think. Ron ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sugar Sent: 05 January 2011 22:58 To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: JAWS and Windows Messenger the same thisn is happening to me, but I am useing just windows messenger, and jaws 11, with windows office 2007 my thing is, jaws will not read me what I've just typed when I sent it. but it will read it if I arrow right and left, and, or go to the message log, but usually it'll read the entire sentence after I send it in,any suggestions? all muted keys are unchecked and I've done everything I know, which doesn't say much, giggle, but any help,suggestions,advice would be appreciated sugar ~Sugar ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 1:28 PM Subject: RE: JAWS and Windows Messenger Howdy, I just installed Windows Live yesterday, so I'm running that particular version. I'm also running JFW 10.0.1139. What has now been happening is that my friend types something in, and JAWS will read it the first time but when I try to use my jaws cursor or other commands, I can't get it to read anything but graphics and the menu bar. It's annoying. From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 11:41 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: JAWS and Windows Messenger hello there; well, if your using windows live 2011, you need to, 1, open messenger, 2, shift+tab until you hear; toggle layout button, and press enter. now, you should be able to see your contact list, online/offline, and you should be able to read the messages. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:17 PM Subject: JAWS and Windows Messenger Howdy, I am needing to use Windows Live Messenger very soon. I've loaded it on to my Vista machine with JAWS 10. I know.I know, I need to upgrade, and will do that in a while. Anyway, when trying to use it with someone, I couldn't get JAWS to read the messages that I was typing or the messages that my friend was typing to me. I used to use it on a Netbook computer with Windows XP and JAWS 10, but something's different here. Do I need specific scripts or certain commands to use it? It's kind of necessary. Thanks. Jim ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3361 - Release Date: 01/05/11 12:00:00