Re: JAWS and Spanish
- From: "Jerry Neufeld" <jerry.neufeld@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:06:40 -0500
I promise to desist, for a while at least, after this message.
The topic concerning special symbols and foreign accents continues to be
raised on this list, nearly all responses to inquiries also continue to tout
insert 4 or use of the alt key and ascii codes. Though I and others
occasionally suggest an infinitely easier solution for those who write in
another language, i.e., the addition of a foreign keyboard map, almost no
one seems to follow this approach. I cannot help but wonder why this is.
Jaws makes keyboard switching very easy. Also, Word will automatically
switch them for one if the keyboard has been installed through the control
panel. So too will the synthesizer automatically switch into the appropriate
language if the language setting in JFW is set to on. No one need remember
either exotic keystrokes or impossible to recall ascii codes using this
approach.
Okay folks. Enough of my soapbox on this subject. For those serious language
learners or foreign language users, do look into the supplemental software
keyboard solution. As they say in ads, you'll be very glad you did.
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vy Pham" <thaovyngu@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS and Spanish
>I am refering to the search box in the microsoft word help, or you can even
> go on the microsoft website and find it there. just do a control insert
> home
> to go to the search box and type in international characters.
>
> Matter of fact, i just got the list from there website. Here it is:
>
>
> Keyboard shortcuts for international characters
>
> Help alt+4
> Assistance alt+7 >
> Word 2003 >
> Startup and Settings >
> Accessibility >
> Keyboard Shortcuts
> Show All
>
> For keyboard shortcuts in which you press two or more keys simultaneously,
> the keys to press are separated by a plus sign (+) in Microsoft Word Help.
> For
> keyboard shortcuts in which you press one key immediately followed by
> another key, the keys to press are separated by a comma (,). To type a
> lowercase
> character using a key combination that includes the SHIFT key, hold down
> the
> CTRL+SHIFT+symbol keys simultaneously, and then release them before typing
> the letter.
>
> Press
> Definition list of 16 items
> CTRL+` (ACCENT GRAVE), the letter = à, è, ì, ò, ù,
> À, È, Ì, Ò, Ù
> CTRL+' (APOSTROPHE), the letter = á, é, í, ó, ú, ý
> Á, É, Í, Ó, Ú, Ý
> CTRL+SHIFT+^ (CARET), the letter = â, ê, î, ô, û
> Â, Ê, Î, Ô, Û
> CTRL+SHIFT+~ (TILDE), the letter = ã, ñ, õ
> Ã, Ñ, Õ
> CTRL+SHIFT+: (COLON), the letter = ä, ë, ï, ö, ü, ÿ,
> Ä, Ë, Ï, Ö, Ü, Y
> CTRL+SHIFT+@, a or A = å, Å
> CTRL+SHIFT+&, a or A = æ, Æ
> CTRL+SHIFT+&, o or O = o, O
> CTRL+, (COMMA), c or C = ç, Ç
> CTRL+' (APOSTROPHE), d or D = ð, Ð
> CTRL+/, o or O = ø, Ø
> ALT+CTRL+SHIFT+? = ¿
> ALT+CTRL+SHIFT+! = ¡
> CTRL+SHIFT+&, s = ß
> The character code, ALT+X = The Unicode character for the specified
> Unicode
> (hexadecimal) character code. For example, to insert the euro currency
> symbol
> (
> Euro currency symbol), type 20AC, and then hold down the ALT key and press
> X.
> ALT+the character code (on the numeric keypad) = The
> ANSI
> character for the specified ANSI (decimal) character code. For example, to
> insert the euro currency symbol, hold down the ALT key and press 0128 on
> the
> numeric keypad.
> list end
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:21 PM
> Subject: Re: JAWS and Spanish
>
>
>> Hi,
>> I'm a Word user, and I'm familiar with the normal way to access symbols
> and
>> international characters unless you're a screen reader user and find that
>> function impossible to navigate. Which I do in the past couple of
> releases
>> of Word. I also know about the Jaws Insert 4 symbol list, and I know
>> that
>> some people have an entire set of keyboard strokes to produce ansi
>> characters either memorized or on a list somewhere.
>>
>> But I don't know what you mean, below. What kind of search are you
>> referring to? Where do you find the search engine into which you type
>> something about international characters? Please explain more.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Daniel
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Vy Pham" <thaovyngu@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 1:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: JAWS and Spanish
>>
>>
>> > you may do the accent marks using the microsoft word. Try go in to the
>> > microsoft word and do a search for international characters.
>> >
>> > I have the list of the accents somewhere, just have to go find it. If
>> > you're
>> > having trouble finding the international characters in the Microsoft
> Word,
>> > please let me know. I'll try my best to find the list for you.
>> >
>> > I can tell you that with the spanish language, you only have to deal
> with
>> > the acute accents, the inverted question and the exclaimation marks. I
>> > assume that you're just a beginner of learning spanish? So these should
>> > get
>> > you started.
>> >
>> > Ok, if you want to do an acute accent for each letter, just press the
>> > control apostrophy and then the letter. For example, with an a acute,
> hold
>> > down the control key, then press the apostrophe, then comes the letter
> a.
>> >
>> > For the inverted question mark, do an alt control shift slash. just
>> > hold
>> > all
>> > these keys down at the same time. Jaws is going to say alt control
>> > shift
>> > slash, but if you use a right arrow to read character by character,
>> > then
>> > jaws would say inverted question mark. For the exclaimation mark, do a
>> > control alt shift and the number one on the number row.
>> >
>> > Ok, good luck! If you have anymore questions, please feel free to
> contact
>> > me
>> > at: missyguide@xxxxxxxxxxxx I am also taking Spanish, just like you!
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Jennifer Green" <charay913@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:27 AM
>> > Subject: JAWS and Spanish
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hello. I am a college student who will be taking
>> >> Spanish clases the next two semesters? I have figured
>> >> out how to get JAWS to read in Spanish, but do not
>> >> know how to write using accent marks, enya,s and the
>> >> various punctuation marks. Can anyone help with this?
>> >> I would appreciate it and thank you in advance.
>> >>
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