Hi, Dave. I don't know about an analysis of internal differences between .jdf files in Jaws 9 and Jaws 11, but in Jaws11, there is another box which allows for case sensitivity which is not found in Jaws 9.
Bill White billwhite92701@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Pronounciation Dictionaries in JAWS 11
Gary, Actually I have copied some over, and they work fine. Internally the only difference between the JAWS 11 default.jdf file and any JAWS 9 jdf file is that each pairing is extended as follows: [turn on all punctuation to hear this correctly] JAWS 11 .word1.new pronounced word1.*.*.*.0.0. JAWS 9 .word1.new pronounced word1.It would be fairly easy to edit an old dictionary by doing a search/replacein MS-Word, replacing any .^p with .*.*.*.0.0.^pI presume the new wildcards are related to the dictionary being able to givedifferent pronunciations for different synthesizers, languages, and voices within synthesizers. I stick to the default synth and English, so none of my wildcards are ever affected.However I see no difference in the modified JAWS 9 JDF files when edited inthe JAWS 11 Dictionary Manager, so really don't understand the underlying mystery. Dave----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 13:55 Subject: [Bulk] Re: Pronounciation Dictionaries in JAWS 11 Well, if I really want the dictionaries badly enough, I copy them over by hand. If their format was different though, that probably wouldn't work. Gary King w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 11:22 AM Subject: Re: Pronounciation Dictionaries in JAWS 11Hi, Gary. Probably like Dave, and maybe you, I put a lot of time and effort into upgrading the JAWS dictionary. That's why I merge settingsfrom version to version. But I've also encountered that question at FS. Doyou keep your dictionary settings updated. If so, how do you handle it when installing a new JAWS version? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 11:23 AM Subject: Re: Pronounciation Dictionaries in JAWS 11 Dave, I believe the Merge process to be a pretty much hit or miss affair. That's why I never merge my settings after upgrading to a new version of JFW. If I needed further convincing that Merge is not very reliable, the first thing that JFW Tech Support always asked me when I reported a problem with a new version of JFW was, "Did you merge your settings?" Gary King w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:42 AM Subject: Re: Pronounciation Dictionaries in JAWS 11 Brian and Bill! got it! In the Manage Applications dialog (JAWS/Options/Manage Applications) I found that Outlook Express and a few other applicationswere unchecked. I know I didn't uncheck these, and they are all checked inJAWS 9.0. So for some mysterious reason they had been excluded when I installed and merged JAWS 11. After I made sure they were all checked, they work just fine. I hope no one else suffers from this, but now this is one answer, at least. Dave checked ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill White" <billwhite92701@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:36 PM Subject: Re: Pronounciation Dictionaries in JAWS 11 Have you checked in your configuration manager under "set options" thenunder text processing to make sure your dictionaries are turned on for thespecific applications? Bill White billwhite92701@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:34 PM Subject: Pronounciation Dictionaries in JAWS 11 Anyone else seen this? In older versions of JAWS I was able to have separate JAWS pronunciation dictionaries for various applications, which would be enabled with that application. For example in Outlook Express a specific file Outlook Express.JDF would be loaded, and any specific pronunciations would be active. With JAWS 11 however, none of the application-specific dictionary files are active. the only one that works is the DEFAULT.JDF file. I can open an application-specific JDF file in the dictionary manager, edit it and save it, but it does not get used. Just the default. Yes, I did run the merge utility, and yes, the files are in my user settings folder. Is this something that was broken, or purposely changed in JAWS 11? I can reload JAWS 9 and the dictionaries work fine. Load up JAWS 11 again and they stop working. 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