Re: [Bulk] Re: Pronounciation Dictionaries in JAWS 11
- From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:08:40 -0700
Gary,
Actually I have copied some over, and they work fine. Internally the only
difference between the JAWS 11 default.jdf file and any JAWS 9 jdf file is
that each pairing is extended as follows:
[turn on all punctuation to hear this correctly]
JAWS 11
.word1.new pronounced word1.*.*.*.0.0.
JAWS 9
.word1.new pronounced word1.
It would be fairly easy to edit an old dictionary by doing a search/replace
in MS-Word, replacing any .^p with .*.*.*.0.0.^p
I presume the new wildcards are related to the dictionary being able to give
different pronunciations for different synthesizers, languages, and voices
within synthesizers.
I stick to the default synth and English, so none of my wildcards are ever
affected.
However I see no difference in the modified JAWS 9 JDF files when edited in
the JAWS 11 Dictionary Manager, so really don't understand the underlying
mystery.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 13:55
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Pronounciation Dictionaries in JAWS 11
Well, if I really want the dictionaries badly enough, I copy them over by
hand. If their format was different though, that probably wouldn't work.
Gary King
w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: Pronounciation Dictionaries in JAWS 11
> Hi, Gary. Probably like Dave, and maybe you, I put a lot of time and
> effort into upgrading the JAWS dictionary. That's why I merge settings
> from version to version. But I've also encountered that question at FS. Do
> you keep your dictionary settings updated. If so, how do you handle it
> when installing a new JAWS version?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 11:23 AM
> Subject: Re: Pronounciation Dictionaries in JAWS 11
>
> Dave, I believe the Merge process to be a pretty much hit or miss affair.
> That's why I never merge my settings after upgrading to a new version of
> JFW. If I needed further convincing that Merge is not very reliable, the
> first thing that JFW Tech Support always asked me when I reported a
> problem with a new version of JFW was, "Did you merge your settings?"
>
> Gary King w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Pronounciation Dictionaries in JAWS 11
>
> Brian and Bill!
>
> got it! In the Manage Applications dialog (JAWS/Options/Manage
> Applications) I found that Outlook Express and a few other applications
> were unchecked. I know I didn't uncheck these, and they are all checked in
> JAWS 9.0. So for some mysterious reason they had been excluded when I
> installed and merged JAWS 11.
>
> After I made sure they were all checked, they work just fine.
>
> I hope no one else suffers from this, but now this is one answer, at
> least.
>
> Dave checked
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill White" <billwhite92701@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Pronounciation Dictionaries in JAWS 11
>
> Have you checked in your configuration manager under "set options" then
> under text processing to make sure your dictionaries are turned on for the
> specific applications? Bill White billwhite92701@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:34 PM
> Subject: Pronounciation Dictionaries in JAWS 11
>
> Anyone else seen this? In older versions of JAWS I was able to have
> separate JAWS pronunciation dictionaries for various applications, which
> would be enabled with that application. For example in Outlook Express a
> specific file Outlook Express.JDF would be loaded, and any specific
> pronunciations would be active.
>
> With JAWS 11 however, none of the application-specific dictionary files
> are active. the only one that works is the DEFAULT.JDF file.
>
> I can open an application-specific JDF file in the dictionary manager,
> edit it and save it, but it does not get used. Just the default.
>
> Yes, I did run the merge utility, and yes, the files are in my user
> settings folder.
>
> Is this something that was broken, or purposely changed in JAWS 11?
>
> I can reload JAWS 9 and the dictionaries work fine. Load up JAWS 11 again
> and they stop working.
>
> Dave
>
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