[jawsscripts] Re: web sites with graphics
- From: "black ares" <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 06:26:30 +0200
but you don't need such thing, because smooth text is generated on the fly
when the page is displayed.
So the developer has for sure the natural text, but they are so ignorant
regarding the accessibility that they don't think to put that text as a
alternative solution.
Even that the graphic is not generated on the fly, when it was generated
some one there had the text and possibly the text is still there and can be
refurbished in a plain text page.
On the other hand, sifr is based on flash, and if flash is not installed it
degrades back to plain text and css.
How ever, they have the text, but they don't want to put it there.
More over think that the content of a page is dynamic, you can not OCR-ise a
page and that is all, because from request to request the content of the
page may change.
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From: "Ann Marie Medlar" <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: web sites with graphics
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> Hi,
> Do you know if there is software to convert smooth text to pure text?
> I am just thinking that if a site has inaccessible text then one could
> save
> page in question in some format, then put file through OpenBook or
> another
> conversion software package, save as text or something readable, then
> possibly give file back to web developer to add a link text only link and
> post text info under accessible link?
> I have no idea about web development but just thinking how an
> inaccessible
> site might become accessible at low cost and effort.
> Ann
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> From: "Elise Lonsdale" <elise@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 6:00 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: web sites with graphics
>
>
>> Hi All,
>> Having not seen the web site in question, it's also possible that the
>> graphic in question was produced by one of those programs that place text
>> inside a graphic. To the sighted and possibly novice web developer, they
>> just see what appears as text and continue building their web site
>> oblivious
>> to whether it's a graphic with nice smooth text in their graphic or true
>> text, which we can read with a screen reader.
>>
>> I've seen web pages bashed up by Microsoft Publisher, where if a bloc of
>> text appears close to a picture or word art, the program will just make a
>> nice bit fat graphic of that part of the page to preserve the visual
>> layout
>> for the novice developer, Bingo you get a non-accessible web page.
>>
>> Warm Regards - Elise Lonsdale
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie McBride
>> Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 7:08 AM
>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: web sites with graphics
>>
>> Ann, u queried:
>> As far as BitMaps does this mean that a photo was taken of text data and
>> then posted rather than someone typeing text info?
>>
>> Basically, that's pretty much right. Whether the text was
>> photographed, drawn, etc., it was done as a graphic rather than text &
>> no screenreader, except possibly Cobra, reads that.
>>
>> W/o an access code, if the site is ok till then, the link is pretty much
>> ndg.
>>
>> On 11/4/10, Ann Marie Medlar <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> As far as BitMaps does this mean that a photo was taken of text data and
>>> then posted rather than someone typeing text info?
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jackie McBride" <abletec@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:02 PM
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: web sites with graphics
>>>
>>>
>>>> Likely the screen was drawn in bitmaps as opposed to printing of
>>>> actual text, &, if that be the case, no scripting in the world's gonna
>>>> fix it because Jaws is simply unable to read bitmaps. Having said
>>>> thus, u didn't provide the site url in order for us to check.
>>>>
>>>> On 11/4/10, Ann Marie Medlar <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>> I used IE to go to a web site to take a word test. I had an access
>>>>> code
>>>>> from the site and when I entered a new browser window opens.
>>>>> Jaws reports graphics...
>>>>> Is there any way to scritp this easily to access?
>>>>> The screen instructed me to open a specific file and then to proceed.
>>>>> A
>>>>> sighted person told me that is what my screen stated.
>>>>> I used Windows XP Pro, Jaws11.xx and IE 8.0.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just curious how could this become more accessible?
>>>>> Ann
>>>>>
>>>>>
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