HI Chaba
I also have been using ja= ws for version 12 and been writing some basic
scripts.
I would really would love to = help in this project.
On a different note is there any way of moving the jaws script= list from
freelist to groups.io
Kind regards
Jason
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From: Csaba =C3=81rp=C3=A1dh=C3=A1zy-Godo[2]
Sent: 2= 4 October 2020 08:34
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[3]
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Goo= d intros to JAWS scripting, accessing
highlight status of text in PDF
Good mor= ning for everybody!
So, some words=C2=A0 about jaws-script.org:
I have had to use a screen = reader since 2012. I tried more, including
the now= discontinued WindowEye, NVDA, and JAWS. In terms of knowledge,
JAWS was by far the best, so I chose that. I started with the= 2011
version. I immediately realized that althoug= h the knowledge of the
screen reader was high, it = was missing a very important thing that both
Windo= wEye and NVDA had. And this is the "power of the community." =
Factory-provided scripts are, in most cases, very &quo= t;low-cost" or may
not
actually be usable for= a particular program.
I have also been on this lis= t since 2012. Like so many of us, I
"download= ed" the ideas I find useful and store them on a "jaws wiki" =
directory on my machine, and I browse them when I = need to. It has long
been stated in me that it wou= ld be good to put these on the net in a
structured= way, because I have a problem when I leave and not work on my
home machine. This is because I can't access these files. Then= as I
became acquaintances on the list here over t= he years and started talking
to a few people in pr= ivate, I realized that others were wearing similar
shoes. It became clear to me that not olny did I miss what WindowEye and
NVDA have: a repository of community knowledge. Whe= re one can look for
things if one gets stuck worki= ng with JAWS.
As a sighted I worked at Microsoft back in the early to mid-90s, where= I
was involved in building both Access 1.0 / 2.0 = and Visual Basic 1.0-3.0.
Here I really liked prog= ramming in macro languages. Respectively, the
deve= lopment of macro languages. When I started working with JAWS, I
realized the JAWS Script language - although very powerfull -= but not
properly "developed". For a beg= inner who has no programming basics, the
beginning= is sure to be bitter. And not only is the language considered
somehow "thoughtless" for beginners, but it lacks a = lot of the
simplifications typical of macro langua= ges.
Here= in Hungary, where I live, several people have approached me over
the years to help them learn to write JAWS scripts. Working= with them to
make programming easier - a huge col= lection of functions has been born.
Which is to ad= d features that are very much missing from the JAWS
scripting language. Some of them are just so-called "shorthand"=
versions=C2=A0 of some built-in ones, while other= s bring completely new
functionality to the langua= ge. These include e.g. JAWS Script wrappers
writte= n around COM objects pre-installed in Windows. These are script
modules that make the functionality of an object callable in = the usual
way in the JAWS Script language without = knowing the structure of the
object. Some example:=
shorthand versions of built-in functions
GetCurrentWindowCl= ass () instead of GetWindowClass (GetFocus ()).
Get= GrandParent () instead of GetParent (GetParent (GetFocus ())).
GetWindowRight instead of (GetWindowRight (GetFocus ()).ControlIsEdit ()
instead of [GetObjectSubtypeCode (GetFo= cus ()) =3D=3D WT_EDIT].
InitString (VariableToInit= ialize, InitialValue) instead of writing [If
Varia= bleToInitialize =3D=3D cscNull Then ....] block.
These functions make programming ea= sier for both beginners and advanced
programmers, = and the code is much more readable. Not to mention that you
can achieve the same goal with much less typing.
=E2=80=A2 New functionali= ty
Create= UIAObject () - which simply returns the UIA object.
RegExp Replace (StringReplaceIn, StringToBeReplaced, StringReplaceWith)
- which replaces strings based on regexp conditions.=
CopyFileToString (FilePath) - which copies the con= tent of a text file
into a string variable.
ExcelGetCurrentSheet () - which returns the reference to = the currently
opened sheet in Excel.
GetFileList (FolderPath, Mask) - which returns the list of fil= e names as
a vertical bar separated string.
Some of these f= unctions complement and simplify the functionality that
already exists in JAWS, but most bring completely new functionality t= o
the language. It is about 1000 functions.
Also, while wor= king with beginners, there have born several descriptions
&walktroughs that are similar the one Theodore has published.
I also wrote several add-ons for JAWS that also mak= e it easier to work
with scripts. For example, JAW= S is missing wizards. I=E2=80=99ve created
several
wizards in Access, so I know these come in very handy (sometimes not just)
for beginners. Thus, over the years, a script wiz= ard has been
created that creates the framework fo= r a new script with a few clicks,
or a wizard crea= ted to create variables, create a script / function
declaration, insert an event function, or insert a default function to
overwrite it. But a standardized JAWS script project= manager has also
been created to make the work of= more experienced script writers easier.
Or, in ad= dition, a universal JAWS Script Installer that creates an
installer from the created project file with one click, or one can = click
to install script packages under the current= ly running version of JAWS.
And lots of similar li= ttle things, which make the work with JAWS scripts
easier not for beginners only.
So the conversation with others convinced me to not = only distribute them
in a narrow circle, but to in= ternationalize, standardize, and make them
availab= le to everyone on the net. That=E2=80=99s when the idea of
=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8Bjaws-script.org was born. Since I am currently d= oing it
alone, I will
follow the principle of grad= ation. I dedicate this page to a repository
of kno= wledge about the JAWS Script language. So you would primarily have
4 sections:
1. How to &walktrougn section: where descriptions = focusing on each
problem would be included.
2. Tips &t= ricks section: where there would be descriptions that contain
general ideas and solutions related to scripting.
3. Download section:= where the scripts you write will be published, so
gathered in one place, categorized will be much easier to find if
someone is looking
for something.
4. JAWS Script Language reference section: which wo= uld be nothing more
than an online language refere= nce, as it would be very much needed as
well. This= section would also include localized versions, as the vast
majority of JAWS users and scripters do not speak English.
So in a nutshel= l, this would be jaws-script.org, which could then spread
and evolve later, as it would be possible for anyone to write a wik= i and
publish it. Or to share your own scripts and= modules with others. But
since I=E2=80=99m doing = it alone right now, I=E2=80=99m asking for
patiencefrom
everyone. Since most of my materials are written in Hungarian, translating
them into English and standardizing them is= a big job. :-)
I welcome ideas and comments from the community, as I make it for th= e
community after all.
Chaba
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2020. 10. 24. 3:53 keltez=C3= =A9ssel, Theodore Cooke =C3=ADrta:
Chaba, plea= se tell us more about Jaws-script.org
On 10/23/20, Csaba =C3=81rp=C3=A1dh=C3=A1zy-Godo <=arpadhazi68.jawsul@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi= James,
yes it is a very good idea! And it will be realized soon. T= his is
because "jaws-script.org"= will be started early next year. :-)
Bess= t,
Chaba
2020. 10. 22. 21:57 keltez=C3=A9ssel, James Benste= ad =C3=ADrta:
Hi Theodore,
Your scripting tutorials look great, thank you so= much for sharing them!
whereIt makes me wonder whether it might= be a good idea to set up a wiki
= the JAWS scripting community could develop and share tutorials and
documentation. I would guess that many of us = have something we could
share,
or a little time we could put in to developin= g short articles on areas
that
we are knowledgeable about. What do you think= ?
Jim
=
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 = ;
On Sat, 17 Oct 2020 at 12:18, = Theodore Cooke <theodorecooke@xxxxxxxxx>
= >>wrote:
Yes, you can link to it from your site.=
Now that I have confirmation that= people like it, I'll start on part 2.
= >- Show quoted text -
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On 10/16/20, Snowman <snowman@snowmanra= dio.com> wrote:
like people>>>> wouldTed,=C2=A0 = I did not know this tutorial existed.=C2=A0 But, it seems
&= gt;>>
f= ind it very useful.
provided?I'd like t= o link to it from my site.=C2=A0 Can I use the link you
Or,
>= ;>
will th= is be moving soon.
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>= ;> ----- Original Message -----
<jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx&g= t;= >From: "Theodore Cooke" <theodorecooke@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>> To:
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2= 020 9:36 AM
Subject: [jawsscri= pts] Re: Good intros to JAWS scripting, accessing
= >>
Here= 's a walk through I wrote on learning jaws scripting. There is a
part II in the works, but since I haven'= t received any feedback on
par= t 1 yet, I have left part 2 on the back burner for now.
29a?fbclid=3DIwAR3LNsFC3Ny66yAx8RknBpDEMXnJwa8h9lHj53NMkMMNEwFhd3F4X3WKH1s= >>https://gist.github.com/BeastlyTheos/177004102bafda4b20e9b6e72863d=
&= gt;>> Hi, James,
here is the = ling:
=
https://support.freedomscient= ific.com/support/jawsdocumentation/FSDN
>= ;>>>
= >
2020= 09. 24. 22:53 keltez=C3=A9ssel, James Benstead =C3=ADrta:
Hi Csaba,
= >>>>>>Thank you, I will continue my work in learning JAW= S scripting onthat
ba= sis!
I can't find the speci= fic FSDN help file "The Essential JAWS
>= ;>>>>> Scripting
>= ;>> Handbook", but I did find the "Basics of Scripting Manu= al" at
=
c.com/Content/Documents/Other/ScriptManual/01-0_Introduction.htmhttps://support.freedomscientifi=
And the FSDN help file at
support/jawsdocumentation/FSDNhttps://support.freedomscientific.com/=
= >>
Guide", and&= gt; Which includes "General Scripting Concepts", "Reference =
"API
Tools".
Are these the correct documents to start wi= th? Or am I missing
so= mething?
Thanks again!>>>>>>>
Jim
= >>>>>--
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>= ;>>>>>
<= >>>>On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 20:30, Csaba =C3=81rp=C3=A1dh=C3=A1= zy-Godo
arpadhazi= 68.jawsul@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
= >>
&= gt;> Hi James,
o= f course, JAWS Script language has functions to determine the
colors
on
you to&= gt;>>>> the screen. Bot hte foreground &the background. I = recommend
whatd= ownload FSDN (Freedom Scientific Developer Network) help file
is
"The EssentialJAWS Scripting Handboo= k".
 = ;
HTH
Csaba
2020. 09. 24. 14:56 keltez=C3=A9ssel, J= ames Benstead =C3=ADrta:
&g= t;>> I'm looking to get into JAWS scripting. Are there good online
resources
to
get me started? I have some experie= nce of coding.
= One specific thing I'd like to be able to access with a script is
the
"highlighting status" = of any give character in a PDF. Not
>= ; highlighting
= as
in "s= electing text so that you can then make it bold or italic",
but
the
&g= t;>>>>>>> sort of highlighting you can add to a PDF th= at looks likeyou've
drawn
on
availablethe document with a highlighter = pen. Is this information
= >>>>>to
>= ;> JAWS
scr= ipts?
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