[jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit

  • From: Jim Bauer <holdsworthfan@xxxxxx>
  • To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:14:56 -0500

When JAWS can't find a script in either the JSB of the currently
active configuration or any JSBs linked to the active binary via Use
statements, the offending script's name is passed to the unknown
function. In default.jss, this function is written to speak the
infamous, "unknown call to script/function" <func/scriptName> message.

Here, we're creating an application-specific override that looks up
the JKM entry for the given script name and types the keystroke it
finds.

If you try creating scripts in WXCore and doling out keystrokes,
nothing will happen when those keys are pressed in Mctwit. And if you
switch to the Mctwit configuration and merrily script hotkey after
hotkey in Mctwit.jss without the aforementioned override, JAWS will
pass any script called to unknown.

Original message
from: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit
date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:17:22 -0400 (EDT)

>Jim,
>I have not been able to get your technique to work, but since Brian did,
>I must not be grasping it fully.  Can you explain conceptually what this
>technique is doing?
>
>Jamal
>On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Jim Bauer wrote:
>
>> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:28:40 -0500
>> From: Jim Bauer <holdsworthfan@xxxxxx>
>> Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit
>>
>> This goes in wx._core_:
>>
>> function Unknown(string TheName)
>> typeKey(iniReadString("Common Keys", TheName,
>> getCurrentScriptKeyName(), GetJawsSettingsDirectory()+"\\mctwit.jkm"))
>> endFunction
>>
>>
>> Then, simply switchToConfiguration("mctwit" in WXCore's autoStartEvent
>> function. Put your scripts in mctwit.jss.
>> Hope that cleared things up at least a little.
>> Original message
>> from: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
>> subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit
>> date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:51:11 -0400 (EDT)
>>
>> >Hi Jim,
>> >Can you post sample code?  I tried SwitchToConfiguration in the
>> >AutoStart event, but it did not work.  I also tried SwitchToScriptFile.
>> >I didn't understand the references to unknown function or the ini file
>> >in your message.
>> >
>> >Jamal
>> >On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Jim Bauer wrote:
>> >
>> >> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:12:24 -0500
>> >> From: Jim Bauer <holdsworthfan@xxxxxx>
>> >> Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit
>> >>
>> >> You can make Unknown work for you here:
>> >> switch to the mctwit configuration in the autoStartEvent of
>> >> wx._core_.jss. Also include therein an unknown function that looks in
>> >> mctwit.jkm (via iniReadString) for the keystroke(s) it has been
>> >> passed, then types the findings.
>> >>
>> >> HTH
>> >>  Original message
>> >> from: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit
>> >> date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:19:54 -0400 (EDT)
>> >>
>> >> >I have tried that as well, without success.  Good suggestion though.
>> >> >
>> >> >Jamal
>> >> >On Mon, 15 Jun 2009,
>> >> >Bryan Garaventa wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:11:18 -0700
>> >> >> From: Bryan Garaventa <bgaraventa11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You've likely already tried this, but does the old method for passing 
>> >> >> keys
>> >> >> through work? For instance
>> >> >> {alt+t}
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> To: <JAWSScripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 8:15 AM
>> >> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Difficulty scripting McTwit
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > As you may know, I develop a Twitter client called McTwit, whose 
>> >> >> > installer
>> >> >> > is available at
>> >> >> > http://EmpowermentZone.com/mtsetup.exe
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Although I try to make the application as keyboard and screen
>> >> >> > reader-friendly as possible, sometimes there are ways that it may be
>> >> >> > enhanced in ways that are not presently practical through my coding 
>> >> >> > alone.
>> >> >> > I wish to promote collaboration in this and other open source 
>> >> >> > projects, so
>> >> >> > will work with anyone wanting to make a contribution that offers
>> >> >> > additional features.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I'm writing now in the hope that someone on this list may be able to
>> >> >> > resolve why JAWS does not recognize scripted keys for McTwit.  Brian
>> >> >> > Hartgen and others on Twitter have suggested alternative hotkeys for
>> >> >> > McTwit that work like an email interface.  At present, I am 
>> >> >> > implementing
>> >> >> > hotkeys only by means of the Windows dialog engine, which 
>> >> >> > automatically
>> >> >> > provides hotkeys of an Alt+Letter nature when the & character is 
>> >> >> > used in
>> >> >> > the label of a button.  With some email-like alternatives, one could 
>> >> >> > also
>> >> >> > do, say, Control+N for a new tweet (rather than Alt+T), Control+R 
>> >> >> > for a
>> >> >> > direct reply, and Control+Shift+R for a public reply (like "replying 
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > all").
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > To our surprise, Brian Hartgen and I have not been able to implement 
>> >> >> > this
>> >> >> > with normal JAWS scripting techniques, e.g.,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Script NewTweet()
>> >> >> > TypeKey("Alt+T")
>> >> >> > EndScript
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > where the .jkm file contains
>> >> >> > Control+N=NewTweet
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > This is why Brian has been trying to use the key pressed event, with
>> >> >> > unsatisfactory results so far.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I asked Jeff Bishop if he could implement similar functionality with
>> >> >> > Window-Eyes scripting, and he has done so in a script package 
>> >> >> > available at
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > http://www.gwmicro.com/Script_Central/Scripts/Script_Details/?scriptid=1244
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Can anyone help us get this working with JAWS?  Although the main
>> >> >> > executable is McTwit.exe, Insert+Q reports that a GUI-related DLL is
>> >> >> > active when McTwit is the active window.  Still, JAWS should be able 
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > script such an application, as it does for others with DLLs that 
>> >> >> > assist
>> >> >> > the primary executable.  I don't know if this might be a problem, 
>> >> >> > but the
>> >> >> > DLL has a Python related suffix, rather than the traditional .dll.  
>> >> >> > The
>> >> >> > AutoStart event does trigger whenever McTwit is the active window, 
>> >> >> > but
>> >> >> > scripts are not recognized.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Suggestions, anyone?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Jamal
>> >> >> >
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