[jaws-uk] Re: jaws and the mack

  • From: "ALAN THORPE" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 07:51:47 -0800

thank you all for your comments on this topic
but does any one have the email address for the mack vi list.

MANY THANKS
ALAN THORPE
TEL 0114 220 7007  07961 406 739
EMAIL  info@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
WEB www.eyecan.org.uk

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tristram Llewellyn 
  To: 'jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 2:25 AM
  Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: jaws and the mack


  I am a little late on this thread but the reason you cannot use a Macbook Air 
to run Windows in a VM is simply an issue of memory.  When running a VM to run 
Windows and whatever inside it you need to dedicate some of the host system 
resources over to the operating system being hosted.  On machines with 4GB this 
is usually not so much of a problem but the MacBook Air is really a very 
expensive companion to a conventional desktop or laptop PC.  It isn’t really 
designed for people wanting to run VMs on it.  The same considerations would 
apply on a regular Windows PC although unless you are a technical bent it is 
less likely you would be doing this.

   

  One way around this is to use Boot Camp instead where you then be able to 
dedicate full resources of the machine to the operating system rather than 
sharing them between two.  I think for the visually impaired this is a more 
reliable option.  Unless you are really committed to using the Apple OS a Mac 
of any kind is a really expensive way to run Windows/JAWS when you can get 
Netbook/PC machines that will do the job at a third of the price.  If you want 
to use Voice Over and prepared to commit yourself to that climb then it makes 
more sense, but that is a subject for another list.

   

  Regards.

  Tristram Llewellyn
  Sight and Sound Technology
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  www.sightandsound.co.uk

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  From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of ALAN THORPE
  Sent: 23 November 2010 17:15
  To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: jaws and the mack

   

  hi amro

  thank you for this.

  the rep at apple was just a  little concerned about the capacity on the new 
mack air so we decided to start on the mini.

  which has more usb ports a  cd drive and the card reader for much less money.

  i  will be able to play after tomorrow when my brother comes to set it up for 
me.

   

  MANY THANKS
  ALAN THORPE
  TEL 0114 220 7007  07961 406 739
  EMAIL  info@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  WEB www.eyecan.org.uk

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Amro Bilal 

    To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

    Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:11 AM

    Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: jaws and the mack

     

    Hi Alan,

     

    It was the higher specs one with the flash hard drive. He got it last year 
so it's not the newer Air that has come out recently. Yes, the Air is very 
elegant and really nice.

     

    Apple tech support are usually good but this time they got it completely 
wrong it seems. Unless the "next generation" Mac Book Air has changed that it 
can't take Windows, which I very much doubt, you shouldn't have a problem.

     

    Using an application called Mac Boot, you can install Windows on your Mac 
and at start up choose whether to boot in Windows or the Leopard. That is the 
method my brother is using and I believe there are other apps than Mac Boot out 
there to do a similar job. I can't remember the name of the app but there's one 
that lets you run Windows in a virtual environment from within Leopard itself.

     

    He's only been using Jaws on the Mac Air for a couple of weeks but running 
Windows 7 home pro and Jaws 12, he says the setup is working nicely and the 
system is fast and responsive.

     

    My brother has remapped the keyboard to account for the loss of some 
Windows keys on the Mac, but he says it is still fiddly to invoke some Jaws 
functions. That is the main criticism he has for now. There's another small 
issue with the soundcard drivers it looks as sometimes Jaws stutters a little 
when it start speaking.

     

    If you have just bought your Mini you'll be able to exchange it to a Mac 
Air easily from the Apple store. I recall one has seven days or it actually 
might have been fortnights as a cooling off period.

     

    HTH,

    Amro

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: ALAN THORPE 

      To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

      Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:31 AM

      Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: jaws and the mack

       

      hello amro

      thank you for this.

      only yesterday i  bought the mack mini.

      as the apple specialist said that i  would not be able to run windows and 
jaws on an air.

      that is a  shame as it was the air i  really wanted.

       

      which air did he get.

       

      MANY THANKS
      ALAN THORPE
      TEL 0114 220 7007  07961 406 739
      EMAIL  info@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      WEB www.eyecan.org.uk

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Amro Bilal 

        To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

        Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 5:38 PM

        Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: jaws and the mack

         

        Hi Alan, my brother has just started using Windows 7 and Jaws on a Mac 
Air. If you have a question I can ask him on your behalf.

         

        Cheers,

        Amro

          ----- Original Message ----- 

          From: ALAN THORPE 

          To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

          Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 12:12 PM

          Subject: [jaws-uk] jaws and the mack

           

          hi all

          first is there a  list for jaws and the Mack.

          second is any one using jaws with a  Mack on the windows platform.

          please let me know.

           

          MANY THANKS
          ALAN THORPE
          TEL 0114 220 7007  07961 406 739
          EMAIL  info@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          WEB www.eyecan.org.uk

            ----- Original Message ----- 

            From: jane.askew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 

            To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

            Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 3:51 AM

            Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Bbc Iplayer

             

            Hi John

            We are both using internet explorer with windows 7 and both using 
version 12 JAWS (i have the 40min demo version). 

             

            He can tab around the browser window and each control can be made 
active (it turns orange), but neither the space or the enter key work to 
activate the option.

             

            Jane

             


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            From: John Burling <j.burling@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
            To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
            Sent: Sunday, 21 November, 2010 11:07:23
            Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Bbc Iplayer 

            Hi Jane.  Are you and the client both using JAWS, or only the 
client? What
            version(s)? Is the virtual PC cursor active? 

            What browser are you both using? What version(s)?

            Thanks.

            John


            -----Original Message-----
            From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
            Behalf Of Jane Askew
            Sent: 21 November 2010 10:00
            To: JAWS Forum
            Subject: [jaws-uk] Bbc Iplayer 

            Hi

            For some reason my clients keyboard strokes will not work through 
iplayer.
            Space or enter is required to activate and play or pause a program. 
They
            don't work. But everything works fine on my laptop. 

            We both have the laptop keyboard setup. I have gone through the 
settings and
            cannot replicate what is happening on the clients machine.

            Any ideas?

            Cheers

            Jane askew 

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