[jaws-uk] Re: jaws and the mack
- From: Tristram Llewellyn <tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 10:25:21 +0000
I am a little late on this thread but the reason you cannot use a Macbook Air
to run Windows in a VM is simply an issue of memory. When running a VM to run
Windows and whatever inside it you need to dedicate some of the host system
resources over to the operating system being hosted. On machines with 4GB this
is usually not so much of a problem but the MacBook Air is really a very
expensive companion to a conventional desktop or laptop PC. It isn’t really
designed for people wanting to run VMs on it. The same considerations would
apply on a regular Windows PC although unless you are a technical bent it is
less likely you would be doing this.
One way around this is to use Boot Camp instead where you then be able to
dedicate full resources of the machine to the operating system rather than
sharing them between two. I think for the visually impaired this is a more
reliable option. Unless you are really committed to using the Apple OS a Mac
of any kind is a really expensive way to run Windows/JAWS when you can get
Netbook/PC machines that will do the job at a third of the price. If you want
to use Voice Over and prepared to commit yourself to that climb then it makes
more sense, but that is a subject for another list.
Regards.
Tristram Llewellyn
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From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of ALAN THORPE
Sent: 23 November 2010 17:15
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: jaws and the mack
hi amro
thank you for this.
the rep at apple was just a little concerned about the capacity on the new
mack air so we decided to start on the mini.
which has more usb ports a cd drive and the card reader for much less money.
i will be able to play after tomorrow when my brother comes to set it up for
me.
MANY THANKS
ALAN THORPE
TEL 0114 220 7007 07961 406 739
EMAIL info@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
WEB www.eyecan.org.uk<http://www.eyecan.org.uk>
----- Original Message -----
From: Amro Bilal<mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:11 AM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: jaws and the mack
Hi Alan,
It was the higher specs one with the flash hard drive. He got it last year so
it's not the newer Air that has come out recently. Yes, the Air is very elegant
and really nice.
Apple tech support are usually good but this time they got it completely wrong
it seems. Unless the "next generation" Mac Book Air has changed that it can't
take Windows, which I very much doubt, you shouldn't have a problem.
Using an application called Mac Boot, you can install Windows on your Mac and
at start up choose whether to boot in Windows or the Leopard. That is the
method my brother is using and I believe there are other apps than Mac Boot out
there to do a similar job. I can't remember the name of the app but there's one
that lets you run Windows in a virtual environment from within Leopard itself.
He's only been using Jaws on the Mac Air for a couple of weeks but running
Windows 7 home pro and Jaws 12, he says the setup is working nicely and the
system is fast and responsive.
My brother has remapped the keyboard to account for the loss of some Windows
keys on the Mac, but he says it is still fiddly to invoke some Jaws functions.
That is the main criticism he has for now. There's another small issue with the
soundcard drivers it looks as sometimes Jaws stutters a little when it start
speaking.
If you have just bought your Mini you'll be able to exchange it to a Mac Air
easily from the Apple store. I recall one has seven days or it actually might
have been fortnights as a cooling off period.
HTH,
Amro
----- Original Message -----
From: ALAN THORPE<mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:31 AM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: jaws and the mack
hello amro
thank you for this.
only yesterday i bought the mack mini.
as the apple specialist said that i would not be able to run windows and jaws
on an air.
that is a shame as it was the air i really wanted.
which air did he get.
MANY THANKS
ALAN THORPE
TEL 0114 220 7007 07961 406 739
EMAIL info@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
WEB www.eyecan.org.uk<http://www.eyecan.org.uk>
----- Original Message -----
From: Amro Bilal<mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 5:38 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: jaws and the mack
Hi Alan, my brother has just started using Windows 7 and Jaws on a Mac Air. If
you have a question I can ask him on your behalf.
Cheers,
Amro
----- Original Message -----
From: ALAN THORPE<mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 12:12 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] jaws and the mack
hi all
first is there a list for jaws and the Mack.
second is any one using jaws with a Mack on the windows platform.
please let me know.
MANY THANKS
ALAN THORPE
TEL 0114 220 7007 07961 406 739
EMAIL info@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
WEB www.eyecan.org.uk<http://www.eyecan.org.uk>
----- Original Message -----
From: jane.askew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jane.askew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 3:51 AM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Bbc Iplayer
Hi John
We are both using internet explorer with windows 7 and both using version 12
JAWS (i have the 40min demo version).
He can tab around the browser window and each control can be made active (it
turns orange), but neither the space or the enter key work to activate the
option.
Jane
________________________________
From: John Burling <j.burling@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:j.burling@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, 21 November, 2010 11:07:23
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Bbc Iplayer
Hi Jane. Are you and the client both using JAWS, or only the client? What
version(s)? Is the virtual PC cursor active?
What browser are you both using? What version(s)?
Thanks.
John
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From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On
Behalf Of Jane Askew
Sent: 21 November 2010 10:00
To: JAWS Forum
Subject: [jaws-uk] Bbc Iplayer
Hi
For some reason my clients keyboard strokes will not work through iplayer.
Space or enter is required to activate and play or pause a program. They
don't work. But everything works fine on my laptop.
We both have the laptop keyboard setup. I have gone through the settings and
cannot replicate what is happening on the clients machine.
Any ideas?
Cheers
Jane askew
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