[jaws-uk] Re: The great jaws 8 debate?
- From: "susan mcdonald" <susan_mcdonald52@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 10:28:58 +0000
Freedom Box is one of the free download demo?s that I have already tried and
discarded but the Mac voiceover sounds good do you have a web address for
it?
>From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: The great jaws 8 debate?
>Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 17:21:24 -0000
>
>Susan et al,
>If I were investigating my options now I would look at system access. £270
>with upgrades free for the first year then £70 after that.
>
>www.freedombox.info
>
>Apparently this can do messenger email and web browsing. Not sure what
>else.
>
>I would also investigate the Mac screen reader called Voice over of which
>there will be a new one in the new year. This comes built into the OS.
>Not
>sure how good this second one will be. The first one was a good start but
>needs more work. This would also mean learning a new operating system.
>
>Nigel
>My opinions are my own.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "susan mcdonald" <susan_mcdonald52@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 11:33 AM
>Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: The great jaws 8 debate?
>
>
> >I am one of those struggling to keep up with the updates to jaws but have
> > been unsuccessful in finding an alternative screenreader that can go
> > everywhere and do things as quickly as Jaws, so if you come across a
> > screenreader that is able to do what Jaws does without all the problems
>I
> > am
> > sure we would all like to know so we can all have it instead of moarning
> > about the problems that Jaws is facing up to just to keep up with
> > Technology
> >
> >
> >>From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Reply-To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: The great jaws 8 debate?
> >>Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:45:30 -0000
> >>
> >>I say they are a luxury item as a lot of blind people do not have such
> >>software.
> >>
> >>Nigel
> >>Do you have a sports car?
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Iain Lackie" <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 11:14 PM
> >>Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: The great jaws 8 debate?
> >>
> >>
> >> > They haven't been a luxury item. They are an expensive necessity.
> >> >
> >> > Iain
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 4:42 PM
> >> > Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: The great jaws 8 debate?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Very well said Robin.
> >> > Only thing I would say is that screen readers have always been a
>luxury
> >> > item
> >> > for the blind.
> >> >
> >> > Nigel
> >> > There's something wrong there.
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Robin Clayden" <r.clayden@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:26 PM
> >> > Subject: [jaws-uk] The great jaws 8 debate?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>I sometimes wonder if we've reached a watershed in jaws and what it
> >> >> achieves in serving our needs. I mean, now we've just been
>introduced
> >>to
> >> >> IE7 and a suitably compatible version of Jaws, if you're O/S is XP,
> >>then
> >> >> don't you think you have enough ammunition to sit tight for the next
> >> >> five years and maybe much more without spending any more cash on
>this
> >> >> product? This I accept will apply more to the domestic user rather
> >> >> than
> >> >> us poor pro's in employment.
> >> >>
> >> >> By the time you reach the point where your system and jfw can't do
>the
> >> >> job you need, then your computer system might need replacing, an
> >> >> alternative screen reader at a much lower price may be around the
> >>market
> >> >> place, and heck, maybe they'll speed up that research and cure us
>all
> >> >> who suffer from RP!
> >> >>
> >> >> I totally agree that the enhancements in recent times, one could
> >> >> argue,
> >> >> don't justify the upgrade price, and they do tend to bring in these
> >> >> upgrades at frequent intervals when perhaps they could be re
>scheduled
> >> >> to a longer period encompassing more of the new features in one
> >> >> upgrade
> >> >> instead of two.
> >> >>
> >> >> But these techies at FS are constantly working to keep up with
> >> >> technology and I suppose they've got to earn a living, just a pity
>it
> >> >> has to be sponsored by us, the drawback of a product that's
>specialist
> >> >> and has a limited market. I admit it's easy to be kind of casual
>about
> >> >> the product when I'm fortunate to have mine paid by my employer, but
>I
> >> >> do sympathise with the domestic users who have to shell out a lot of
> >> >> cash they can't afford and find it difficult to agree they're
>getting
> >> >> value for their money.
> >> >>
> >> >> All in all it's a fantastic tool for blind and visually impaired
> >> >> people
> >> >> but it's fast becoming a luxury item.
> >> >>
> >> >> J m o,
> >> >>
> >> >> Kind regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Robin Clayden,
> >> >> Edinburgh College of Art,
> >> >> 74 Lauriston Place,
> >> >> EDINBURGH EH3 9DF.
> >> >>
> >> >> T: +44 0 131 221 6000
> >> >> E: r.clayden@xxxxxxxxx
> >> >> W: http://www.eca.ac.uk=20
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