Food, heating and water are essential to maintain life, a screen reader is not. Nigel See above. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain Lackie" <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:49 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: The great jaws 8 debate? >A lot of people are staarving but that doesn't make bread a luxury. > > iain > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:45 PM > Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: The great jaws 8 debate? > > > I say they are a luxury item as a lot of blind people do not have such > software. > > Nigel > Do you have a sports car? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Iain Lackie" <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 11:14 PM > Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: The great jaws 8 debate? > > >> They haven't been a luxury item. They are an expensive necessity. >> >> Iain >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 4:42 PM >> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: The great jaws 8 debate? >> >> >> Very well said Robin. >> Only thing I would say is that screen readers have always been a luxury >> item >> for the blind. >> >> Nigel >> There's something wrong there. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robin Clayden" <r.clayden@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:26 PM >> Subject: [jaws-uk] The great jaws 8 debate? >> >> >>>I sometimes wonder if we've reached a watershed in jaws and what it >>> achieves in serving our needs. I mean, now we've just been introduced to >>> IE7 and a suitably compatible version of Jaws, if you're O/S is XP, then >>> don't you think you have enough ammunition to sit tight for the next >>> five years and maybe much more without spending any more cash on this >>> product? This I accept will apply more to the domestic user rather than >>> us poor pro's in employment. >>> >>> By the time you reach the point where your system and jfw can't do the >>> job you need, then your computer system might need replacing, an >>> alternative screen reader at a much lower price may be around the market >>> place, and heck, maybe they'll speed up that research and cure us all >>> who suffer from RP! >>> >>> I totally agree that the enhancements in recent times, one could argue, >>> don't justify the upgrade price, and they do tend to bring in these >>> upgrades at frequent intervals when perhaps they could be re scheduled >>> to a longer period encompassing more of the new features in one upgrade >>> instead of two. >>> >>> But these techies at FS are constantly working to keep up with >>> technology and I suppose they've got to earn a living, just a pity it >>> has to be sponsored by us, the drawback of a product that's specialist >>> and has a limited market. I admit it's easy to be kind of casual about >>> the product when I'm fortunate to have mine paid by my employer, but I >>> do sympathise with the domestic users who have to shell out a lot of >>> cash they can't afford and find it difficult to agree they're getting >>> value for their money. >>> >>> All in all it's a fantastic tool for blind and visually impaired people >>> but it's fast becoming a luxury item. >>> >>> J m o, >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Robin Clayden, >>> Edinburgh College of Art, >>> 74 Lauriston Place, >>> EDINBURGH EH3 9DF. >>> >>> T: +44 0 131 221 6000 >>> E: r.clayden@xxxxxxxxx >>> W: http://www.eca.ac.uk=20 >>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>> ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> ** and in the Subject line type >>> ** unsubscribe >>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>> ** immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>> ** or send a message, to >>> ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.11/543 - Release Date: >>> 20/11/2006 >>> >>> >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> >> >> >> >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.13/546 - Release Date: >> 22/11/2006 >> > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/547 - Release Date: > 22/11/2006 > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq