[jaws-uk] Re: The great jaws 8 debate?
- From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 17:21:24 -0000
Susan et al,
If I were investigating my options now I would look at system access. £270
with upgrades free for the first year then £70 after that.
www.freedombox.info
Apparently this can do messenger email and web browsing. Not sure what
else.
I would also investigate the Mac screen reader called Voice over of which
there will be a new one in the new year. This comes built into the OS. Not
sure how good this second one will be. The first one was a good start but
needs more work. This would also mean learning a new operating system.
Nigel
My opinions are my own.
----- Original Message -----
From: "susan mcdonald" <susan_mcdonald52@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 11:33 AM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: The great jaws 8 debate?
>I am one of those struggling to keep up with the updates to jaws but have
> been unsuccessful in finding an alternative screenreader that can go
> everywhere and do things as quickly as Jaws, so if you come across a
> screenreader that is able to do what Jaws does without all the problems I
> am
> sure we would all like to know so we can all have it instead of moarning
> about the problems that Jaws is facing up to just to keep up with
> Technology
>
>
>>From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Reply-To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: The great jaws 8 debate?
>>Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:45:30 -0000
>>
>>I say they are a luxury item as a lot of blind people do not have such
>>software.
>>
>>Nigel
>>Do you have a sports car?
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Iain Lackie" <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 11:14 PM
>>Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: The great jaws 8 debate?
>>
>>
>> > They haven't been a luxury item. They are an expensive necessity.
>> >
>> > Iain
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 4:42 PM
>> > Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: The great jaws 8 debate?
>> >
>> >
>> > Very well said Robin.
>> > Only thing I would say is that screen readers have always been a luxury
>> > item
>> > for the blind.
>> >
>> > Nigel
>> > There's something wrong there.
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Robin Clayden" <r.clayden@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:26 PM
>> > Subject: [jaws-uk] The great jaws 8 debate?
>> >
>> >
>> >>I sometimes wonder if we've reached a watershed in jaws and what it
>> >> achieves in serving our needs. I mean, now we've just been introduced
>>to
>> >> IE7 and a suitably compatible version of Jaws, if you're O/S is XP,
>>then
>> >> don't you think you have enough ammunition to sit tight for the next
>> >> five years and maybe much more without spending any more cash on this
>> >> product? This I accept will apply more to the domestic user rather
>> >> than
>> >> us poor pro's in employment.
>> >>
>> >> By the time you reach the point where your system and jfw can't do the
>> >> job you need, then your computer system might need replacing, an
>> >> alternative screen reader at a much lower price may be around the
>>market
>> >> place, and heck, maybe they'll speed up that research and cure us all
>> >> who suffer from RP!
>> >>
>> >> I totally agree that the enhancements in recent times, one could
>> >> argue,
>> >> don't justify the upgrade price, and they do tend to bring in these
>> >> upgrades at frequent intervals when perhaps they could be re scheduled
>> >> to a longer period encompassing more of the new features in one
>> >> upgrade
>> >> instead of two.
>> >>
>> >> But these techies at FS are constantly working to keep up with
>> >> technology and I suppose they've got to earn a living, just a pity it
>> >> has to be sponsored by us, the drawback of a product that's specialist
>> >> and has a limited market. I admit it's easy to be kind of casual about
>> >> the product when I'm fortunate to have mine paid by my employer, but I
>> >> do sympathise with the domestic users who have to shell out a lot of
>> >> cash they can't afford and find it difficult to agree they're getting
>> >> value for their money.
>> >>
>> >> All in all it's a fantastic tool for blind and visually impaired
>> >> people
>> >> but it's fast becoming a luxury item.
>> >>
>> >> J m o,
>> >>
>> >> Kind regards,
>> >>
>> >> Robin Clayden,
>> >> Edinburgh College of Art,
>> >> 74 Lauriston Place,
>> >> EDINBURGH EH3 9DF.
>> >>
>> >> T: +44 0 131 221 6000
>> >> E: r.clayden@xxxxxxxxx
>> >> W: http://www.eca.ac.uk=20
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