George, I too dislike Norton as I used to use it and I found it took over the whole system, I was simply using it as an example of the 'one piece of software does all' solution. I'm deducing from what you say though that I'd be better off sticking with individual programs as much as I don't find the accessibility of the likes of Spybot, Adaware and MS antispyware that great although in the case of MS I believe this is just a beta so hopefully by the time it's released 'proper' it will have better accessibility built-tin - the question then will be whether MS charge for it!! And as someone who's had major issues with seriously nasty spyware I'd echo your comments about keeping software updated. Cheers as ever, Phil Phil Stephenson Disability Officer Tel: 0115 8484495 ________________________________ From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George Bell Sent: 13 June 2005 10:50 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Spybot & other av / spyware solutions Hi Phil, You raise a very good point, but I'm afraid I have always been, and still am, very Anti-Norton. Norton always appears to have and cause more problems than I care to mention. AVG is a well respected program as are the others you mention. However, in terms of Spyware, I believe Microsoft's offering is still the only one which works interactively with a regular automatic update capability. Others need to be manually updated and run on a regular basis. One of the biggest problems I find from where I sit on technical support, is that many people do not fully appreciate how important it is to keep their overall systems up to date. Microsoft themselves frequently issue Critical Updates which plug newly found holes in the system. The anti-virus and anti-spyware people also produce frequent updates. Two or three days is a very long time in this business, especially with hackers and such like constantly trying to wreak havoc. George. ________________________________ From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stephenson, Phil Sent: 13 June 2005 10:17 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Spybot & other av / spyware solutions George, Tagging on to end of this thread am wondering whether there's any benefit having one programme that does all such as Norton Security. I ask as have had serious problem with Spy ware, Trojans etc that resulted in my pc being taken away and nuked by a friend - he works in IT and said he'd never come across such malicious spy ware, it was a zombie that kept coming back to life once you thought you'd killed it. Anyway the problem is solved but has prompted me to think about whether I need different security solution. I currently use AVG free 7 antivirus, Win Up firewall, MS Antispyware programme and occasionally run adaware. I know there is tuff out there that says it can do all this in one but was wondering whether there's any benefits in terms of either overall security or Jaws-usability. Am using all this on a Win XP home machine with Jaws 6.1. Thanks, Phil ----- Phil Stephenson Disability Officer Tel: 0115 8484495 This email is intended solely for the addressee. It may contain private and confidential information. If you are not the intended addressee, please take no action based on it nor show a copy to anyone. In this case, please reply to this email to highlight the error. Opinions and information in this email that do not relate to the official business of Nottingham Trent University shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the University. Nottingham Trent University has taken steps to ensure that this email and any attachments are virus-free, but we do advise that the recipient should check that the email and its attachments are actually virus free. This is in keeping with good computing practice.