Sorry Tink, I haven't really tried any others and I haven't had to used Java in anger yet so the need hasn't driven me to investigate further. I should like, however, to understand the Eclipse IDE better. I do remember folk on the blind programming list using an older version of Jaws for versions of Eclipse earlier than 3 because they said that the later versions of Jaws didn't work so well. I seem to remember them using Jaws 4.2. I haven't tried Jaws 6.1 on Eclipse 3 yet. If I get the time later, I'll have a go and report back. Regards, Phil Medway. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tink Watson" <tink@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 6:35 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Jaws, Java & Eclipse. Phil, Thanks. That makes some more sense of things, but the rest is still something of a mystery. Do you know of a good IDE to use with Jaws? I've mailed the BP list subscribe directly, hopefully this will work better than the forms on the web site. Cheers, Tink. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Medway" <philmedway@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 5:36 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Jaws, Java & Eclipse. > Hi Tink, > > I haven't got the hang of Eclipse either. > > It appears that the buttons which are named something like "split" are > menus > which you open by cursoring down when you land on them. > > If you want to subscribe to the blind programming list, I think the E-mail > method is to send a mail to: > programing-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > but you can get a list of commands by mailing: > mailman-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > containing just the word 'help' in the message body, and an email message > will be sent to you with instructions. > > I thought that there was a list of keystrokes for Eclipse in the help in > the > latest version but haven't got Eclipse on this machine so I can't check. > If > I find it I'll let you know. > > > HTH, > > Phil Medway. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tink Watson" <tink@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: "BCAB" <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Jaws UK" <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 4:41 PM > Subject: [jaws-uk] Jaws, Java & Eclipse. > > > All, > > If anyone out there uses Jaws, Java and the Eclipse IDE, I would very > much appreciate some help. > > I'm doing a Java course, which uses J-Builder, which is inaccessible. > I'm currently using the command line to compile and run code, but this is > proving a bit of a trial, particularly when it comes to debugging. > > I understand the Eclipse IDE is accessible, but having installed > version > 3.0, I'm damned if I can figure out how to get around it. > > I know that Eclipse won't support J-Builder files, but that's something > I'm going to have to work around in time, for now I'd just like to be > familiar enough with teh IDE, so I can code from scratch using it. > > I'm trying to subscribe to the Blind Programming list, but can't get > through either to the list or the list owner, so I'm floundering a bit. > Any > help would be wonderful. > > Thanks, > Tink. > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > -- > This email has been verified as Virus free > Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq