[j-say list] Re: J-Say Pro 10.0 is Released!
- From: "Harry Brown" <wd8oep2464@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 15:56:11 -0400
Hi Pranav,
Well my friend, one thing is sure, change, is coming! I don't doubt that in the
future, this whole jaws/j-say/dragon naturally speaking situation won't exist,
since the days of screen readers like jaws are numbered, so, thus scripts won't
be needed, either! All I can say is, come quickly! So many blind folks are
going to the mac, with voiceover built in, and of course, windows 8 will be
here in October of this year, and, depending on what happens with Narater, in a
few years, maybe sooner, jaws won't exist, and that won't break my heart, when
all along, blind people should have access to windows in the first place, so,
we'll just be able to work with built in screen readers and built in speech
recognition, or, just with dragon, so, either way, we'll have just 2 pieces of
software to work with:
1. the built in screen reader.
2. dragon.
Harry
----- Original Message -----
From: Pranav Lal
To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 8:45 PM
Subject: [j-say list] Re: J-Say Pro 10.0 is Released!
Hi Harry,
I feel your frustration. Sadly, J-Say is tied to particular versions of
jaws. I hate not being able to upgrade. I am not the developer so cannot say
if this is possible but we must explore other ways of interfacing with
screen readers. You have many command systems for Dragon Naturally Speaking
such as unimacro, vocola, knowbrainer and voice power. None of these systems
control screen readers and therein lies the problem. I do not know how good
the Jaws API is for controlling jaws from other applications. Have you seen
saytools by Jamal Masrui (http://empowermentzone.com/SayTools.htm)? They are
a set of libraries that allow a developer to interface with all windows
screen readers. I was using them in a program I was writing and wanted to
detect if jaws had stopped speaking. At that time, there was no way of doing
so. I suspect this is possible using the jaws scripting language and using
the dllcall routine for calling relevant scripts but that is a messy
approach unless you have your own set of jaws which you call. J-Say mot only
adds to Dragon but also it controls how speech and Braille are delivered
using jaws. If the same control could be achieved via an external
application without the use of scripts or not having to customize scripts
for individual applications then we would be in business.
I would urge T&T to revisit this so that J-Say can become independent of
FS's upgrade cycles and T&T gets breathing room to take J-Say forward.
Pranav
-----Original Message-----
From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Harry Brown
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:25 AM
To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [j-say list] Re: J-Say Pro 10.0 is Released!
Hi all,
You're not gonna like this, but oh well.
This j-say, dragon naturally speaking, and jaws stuff is so rediculous.
You'd think in the 21st century, we could have a computer or smart phone,
with 1 program on it, which could let you control your computer or smart
phone completely, by voice, but we don't.
Now, there is some voice recognition on IPhones with SIRI, but it's so in
its infancy, it'll take years to let you controll the entire smart phone.
Instead, we've got jaws, j-say and dragon naturally speaking, what a mess!
I will be glad in the future, when that all will hopefully, change, and we
can have just a screen reader and speech recognition, and not 3 pieces of
software. I mean this is nuts!
Now there is, in windows 7, built in speech recognition, but it won't work
with jaws, so we're stuck with 3 things again. Jaws is the best screen
reader in the world, so if you want speech recognition, with jaws, you gotta
use j-say, jaws, and dragon. Now there is, System access, and you can use it
with the built in voice recognition in windows 7, and it does a great job,
but system access is absolutely horrible. Anyone who has it will tell you
how slow your computer will run with system access on it.
Very frustrated.
Harry
----- Original Message -----
From: Sue Martin <mailto:sue.martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:17 PM
Subject: [j-say list] Re: J-Say Pro 10.0 is Released!
Ann,
That's correct. Uninstall 852 and shared components, If you already
have
718 installed repair it after removing 852. Then install J-Say 10.
Hope that helps.
-----Original Message-----
From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 5:10 PM
To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [j-say list] Re: J-Say Pro 10.0 is Released!
To clarify, then, I have to clear all the JAWS's from my computer
except
.718 in order to use J-Say version 10, because J-Say will discover
my secret
.852 and be cranky about it. Yes???
At 04:50 PM 5/29/2012, you wrote:
>Hi Ann,
>
>Yes, that's correct. JAWS 13.0.718, not 13.0.852.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>Behalf Of Ann Byrne
>Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 4:47 PM
>To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [j-say list] Re: J-Say Pro 10.0 is Released!
>
>Jaws 13.0.718, not 13.0.852?
>At 01:48 PM 5/29/2012, you wrote:
> >Harry - each build of J-Say Pro is tied to a unique build of JFW.
So
> >if you want to upgrade your J-Say Pro from the current version
9.1
> >installation that you have to the new version 10 you would need
to
> >also upgrade your jaws for Windows to version 13.0.718. Hope you
had
> >a good weekend -ed.
> >
> >From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Harry Brown
> >Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 11:23 AM
> >To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [j-say list] Re: J-Say Pro 10.0 is Released!
> >
> >Hi Brian,
> >I have jaws 12.0 build 1170, will j-say 10.0 work with it, or do
I
> >have to upgrade to jaws 13?
> >Harry
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <mailto:Brian.Hartgen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Brian Hartgen
> >To:
> ><mailto:j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >; <mailto:tandt-news@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>tandt-news@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:10 AM
> >Subject: [j-say list] J-Say Pro 10.0 is Released!
> >
> >We are very proud to announce the immediate availability of J-Say
Pro
> >version 10! This makes it possible for you to use JAWS for
Windows
> >version 13 (from Freedom Scientific), and Dragon
NaturallySpeaking
> >Professional version 11.5 (developed by Nuance).
> >
> >Over a number of years, J-Say has become well-known for giving
blind
> >people who cannot (or do not wish to use) the keyboard access to
a
> >computer to prepare documents, manage e-mail and use the full
> >capabilities of the internet. J-Say version 10 builds on those
> >strengths, giving you even more accuracy, responsiveness and
stability.
> >
> >J-Say Pro version 10 includes a new Custom Menu feature. The
J-Say
> >custom menu has been created in response to a feature request
from
> >J-Say
> >Trainers. Trainers were looking for a simple
> >menu from which a user could select an item from
> >a list of commonly performed tasks. If you are
> >a Trainer and have trainees who have trouble remembering command
> >sequences, this feature is
> >for you. If you're an end user who enjoys
> >customizing your J-Say experience, this feature is for you.
> >
> >The Custom Menu will allow a person to build a list of commonly
used
> >actions to:
> >· Launch a program (or application), such as Microsoft
Word;
> >· Open a file or document, such as a text file or
spreadsheet;
> >· Launch a web page, perhaps to a favourite newspaper;
> >· Press a keystroke, for example
> >Control+Home to move to the top of a document;
> >· Type a string of text, maybe a person's name;
> >
> >· Run a JAWS script, perhaps SayLine to
> >cause the current line to be announced.
> >
> >J-Say Pro version 10 contains other new improvements. To read
about
> >what's new in this release please read the J-Say Pro 10 what's
New
> >page.
>
><http://www.tandt-consultancy.com/pages/whats_new_in_j-say_v9.php>http:
> >//www.tandt-consultancy.com/pages/whats_new_in_j-say_v9.php
> >
> >The fastest way to get J-Say Pro 10 on your computer is to
purchase
> >an electronic upgrade. If you own J-Say Pro 8 or 9, you can
upgrade
> >for
> >£114 (excluding VAT). Prices are available from our accessible
> >online store if you own an earlier version if you wish to
purchase a
> >nnew copy.
> >
> >We would very much like to thank our beta testing team. Without
> >their dedication and support over many hours, the J-Say product
would
> >not contain the features and improvements our customers have come
to
> >expect and rely upon for day-to-day use.
> >
> >Our partners in North America, Next Generation Technologies, will
be
> >issuing a Press Release shortly containing pricing and
availability.
> >
> >Do enjoy the new features of J-Say Pro 10!
> >
> >For further enquiries outside North America and Canada, please
e-mail
>
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> >or call our office within the United Kingdom on 08452-303015.
> >
> >
> >
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