[isalist] Re: (no subject)

  • From: "William Holmes" <wtholmes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:46:50 -0400

Hello,

 

Have you simply tried shutting down you cable modem during cable changes?
Many cable modems cache the MAC address of the first system that comes up
after a modem power-up. In this case your linksys box. They usually will
cache two or three. Have you looked at your Cable Modems configuration page?
Most all cable modems have a website that you can look at to see the
currently assigned MAC addressees.

 

That being said have you tried Win2k3?  Have you run the network
configuration wizard in SBS?

 

Bill

 

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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 1:22 AM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: (no subject)

 

What about a plain old fashioned Win2k3 server?  (i.e. - get SBS/ISA out of
the way...)

 

Captures?  Logs?   

 

t

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Glenn Johnston <mailto:ecll@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  

        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

        Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:03 PM

        Subject: [isalist] (no subject)

         

         

         I also would like to know how they do it.

         

        I have a cable internet service specifically designated as a 'HOME
USE'  broadband service, at home, I use the 'HOME USE' service cause it's
nice and cheap.

         

        Sure, Port 25 is blocked inbound, and only allowed to the ISP' SMTP
server outbound, 1723 inbound is blocked inbound, as is 80, 21, 110, and
probably a few other that I haven't found yet, but for home, it works just
fine.

         

        I can plug this cable BB service into a LinkSys, D-Link, and Netgear
BB routers and they will get an address, the router do their NAT'ing
perfectly, and multiple devices can access the internet through the single
public IP just fine.

         

        I can also plug the Cable modem directly into a WinXP Desktop or
Notebook and it will work Just fine.

         

        But when I try to plug it into my play server, a Compaq Proliant
DL380, running SBS2003R2 Premium that  I have at home, It just don't get
issued with an IP address, from the cable modem. Plug it through the LinkSys
router, and it can access the internet just fine, but plug the Server
directly to the Cable Modem = No Public IP address issues by the ISP's DHCP
server.

         

        This is repeatable, I can move the plug back and forth from the
notebook to the server, and the notebook wil repeatedly get the same public
IP, but the server times out, and ends up with a 169... private address.

         

        For me. it's not really an issue, the server does not publish
services, and it only a play server anyway, but the ISP's obviously do
something very tricky & sneaky !

         

        GJ

         

         

        
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        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
        Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:32
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA Server 2004/2006 & Verizon DSL Connection

        Since when does the DCHPDiscover message contain OS infoz?  I'm not
aware of any mechanism that allows a DHCP server to identify the client OS
before assigning an address..  There are several methods to secure DHCP
assignment, but how exactly could Verizon identify the OS type?

         

        t

         

                ----- Original Message ----- 

                From: John T (lists) <mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  

                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

                Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 4:45 PM

                Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA Server 2004/2006 & Verizon DSL
Connection

                 

                Your Verizon DSL service, being residential, may be
configured to only assign IPs to non-server OS. You might try reading your
TOS with them and it may mention this.

                 

                John T

                 

                -----Original Message-----
                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tee Darling
                Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 8:24 AM
                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA Server 2004/2006 & Verizon DSL
Connection

                 

                It's residential. I don't know about MAC or NAT router
(Linksys) since I did not ask them that question. My only concern is how do I
make it work with ISA Server 2006 on a Windows 2003 server? 

                On 3/12/07, John T (lists) <johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

                Is the Verizon DSL service residential or business?

                 

                They said it only works with Windows Workstations, so does
that mean that it will not work with a MAC or with a firewall such as
Sonicwall or even a basic NAT router such as a Linksys?

                 

                John T

                 

                

                -----Original Message-----
                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tee Darling
                Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 7:32 AM 
                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [isalist] ISA Server 2004/2006 & Verizon DSL
Connection

                 

                ISA Gurus,
                 Where are you guys hiding? I need your help out here :).
                Okay, here is my problem. I have a Windows Server 2003, XP,
and Vista network setup. I have a Verizon DSL that connects to my network.
When I connect the Verizon DSL  box (Westell Wirespeed) to any of my
workstations, I get a public DHCP assigned IP address from Verizon. That's
Great. Everything works fine. But when I connect the Verizon DSL to my
Windows Server 2003, the Verizon box is not able to assign the Public IP
address to the server. According to Verizon, their DSL box only works with
Windows workstations and not Windows servers. 
                
                My plan is to setup my network so that my Windows Server 2003
which has 2 NICS in it will have ISA Server 2004 or 2006 install on it.
Actually, I will install ISA Server 2006 since I have worked with the 2004
edition for over a year and a half now. One of the NIC will be connected to
the Internal LAN and the other NIC will be connected to the Verizon Box. But
since I cannot connect the Verizon box directly to the 2nd NIC because of the
limitation that box has with Windows version of the server, what are some of
the connections work around? I even tried to connect the 2nd NIC and the
Verizon box to an unmanaged switch but that was no good. 
                
                Anyone out there with a very good idea to help me make this
connection work? I really need the ISA Server in my environment. Thanks all
for any idea you may have.
                
                Tee

                 

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