Ok, I did the nuke and pave and thought to myself, "Self, what a better way to spend a Sunday than to curse over a fresh o/s install" So here we are, being smart ( yeah ! right) I thought I should put out the questions.. 1) what do I need to know, other than to read Thomas's articles. ? 2) What services do I need to run on windows server, i.e.. DNS, DHCP etc. and when to install and configure ? 3) What not to do ? Thanks in advance, Mark S