Ding Ding....round two.....:)) ________________________________ From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 9:16 PM To: ISA Mailing List Subject: [isalist] RE: Windiows 2003 SP1 http://www.ISAserver.org Jim, How come all it took was for me to join the server that was going to run ISA 2004 Server running Windows 2003 Server non-SP1 to a SP1 Windows network; Windows Update to produce the RPC issue? ISA 2004 was not installed as of yet. Sounds like its more of a Windows thing than it is and ISA thing to me. I have tested this on VM Servers, and on non-VM Server and received the same results in both cases. Maybe Microsoft failed to do complete tests in their labs. Andrew ________________________________ From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 3:14 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Windiows 2003 SP1 http://www.ISAserver.org Wow - Andy got one (almost) right. The RPC problem is in fact, directly related to W2K3 SP1. ISA is affected and as I've pointed out before, there are two separate ISA fixes that deal with this particular issue. Whether or not ISA affects this traffic depends on whether or not ISA sees it and if the RPC filter is involved. ------------------------------------------------------- Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ <http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/> http://isatools.org <http://isatools.org/> Read the help / books / articles! ------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________ From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 09:23 To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Windiows 2003 SP1 http://www.ISAserver.org Steve, Nice try. The PRC issue with Windows 2003 Server not running SP1 connected to a SP1 AD is not directly related to ISA 2004, its related to Windows 2003 Server. Even without ISA installed Windows 2003 Server non-SP1 will produce the PRC issue and cause NTAUTH/SYSTEM to crash forcing the server to restart in 1 minute. Long enough to download SP1 right? LOL The only thing I found odd was that when I upgraded my VM tests machines to SP1, and had an ISA server running on non-SP1 I didn't really see the RPC issue appear as much. Andrew ________________________________ From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 10:52 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Windiows 2003 SP1 http://www.ISAserver.org Well, make a ISA slipstreamed cd!!!! :)) ________________________________ From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 10:38 AM To: ISA Mailing List Subject: [isalist] RE: Windiows 2003 SP1 http://www.ISAserver.org I was able to figure out what the problem was. It seems I didn't notice there was a wireless router connected to the network using the same IP as the ISA box, and even stranger during the problem ISA never complained that there was an IP conflict on the network. I will say that one thing I have noticed if you update all your machines to SP1 using windows update and not ISA things seem to be okay with ISA, however if you use a slipstream version of SP1 Win2k3 Server and you install non-SP1 on your ISA box within minutes the ISA starts crashing with the RPC bug, and you can't even download SP1 without it crashing. Microsoft has done some very bad voodoo shit to SP1. 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