RE: SMS client running on ISA

  • From: "Eric Poole" <EPoole@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 11:30:08 -0800

Thanks Tom,
You are 100% correct.  I've had this problem for some time and was
recently verified at a CISSP meeting that others around the country are
experiencing the same issue.  I'm thinking that problem starts with the
Managers/Directors.  The networking guys will do what their managers
tell them or allow them to do, but if they are either not given
boundaries or told to try and take care of security issues then, well, I
think we all know what happens then.  I guess the biggest problem I face
is the fact that I'm running 20 to 1.  I becomes difficult to push
security issues when I have 20 networking guys not on the same page or
just plain working against me.  Oh well, enough whining for one day.
Thanks again.
_______________________________________________
Eric Poole, CISSP
Senior Information Security Analyst
Community Medical Centers
1140 "T" Street, Fresno, California 93721
559-459-6784 (phone) 559-459-2045 (fax)
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 10:59 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: SMS client running on ISA

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Hi Eric,

You bring up a very good point. It's something that's been bubbling
under the surface for quite a while, but it's becoming extremely clear
that "networking guys" are the weak link in the security chain, and
management of firewalls and other security devices need to be wrested
from them. At one time they might have been able to handle network
security, but with their "open a port" mentality, its obviously that
they can't handle the responsibility. There's still plenty for them to
do, but anything security related really needs to be removed from them
and assigned to those who understand the servers and services that
require the protection.

Thanks!

Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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**Who is John Galt?**

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Poole [mailto:EPoole@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 12:54 PM
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> Subject: [isalist] RE: SMS client running on ISA
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> Well, that's the reason I've been preaching...I thought it was good 
> enough, but you know those networking guys.
> _______________________________________________
> Eric Poole, CISSP
> Senior Information Security Analyst
> Community Medical Centers
> 1140 "T" Street, Fresno, California 93721
> 559-459-6784 (phone) 559-459-2045 (fax)
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John T (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 10:43 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: SMS client running on ISA
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
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> Other than that it is a bad idea to have something else making changes

> on your firewall without your knowledge or say I can not think of any 
> reason not to.
> 
> John T
> eServices For You
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eric Poole [mailto:EPoole@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:14 AM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] SMS client running on ISA
> > 
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
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> > Anyone know of any issues of the Microsoft SMS client being
> installed
> > on ISA?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Eric Poole, CISSP
> > Senior Information Security Analyst
> > Community Medical Centers
> > 1140 "T" Street, Fresno, California 93721
> > 559-459-6784 (phone) 559-459-2045 (fax)
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