An Update, The uninstall of the ISA server failed not very far in at all. I've decided time to stop stuffing around, I am coping the user data, and exporting the user mailboxes to PSt files using exmerge. Going to nuke the box & install from scratch, I reckond it will probably take lees time, than trying to clean up this mess any way, and I then end up with a clean install. I've just got that feeling that this is one of those problems, that no matter how much you do, that is going to keep poping up in the future with more issues. From: Thomas W Shinder Sent: Tue 16/May/2006 10:10 To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: Restore of ISA server config from 1 SBS server to another SBS server. Is it possible to uninstall and reinstall just the ISA firewall component on SBS? If so, that's definitely the way to go. Is the "repair" option available and viable in an SBS install? Thomas W Shinder, M.D. Site: http://www.isaserver.org/ Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Morgan Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 7:03 PM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: Restore of ISA server config from 1 SBS server to another SBS server. I would think that the restore done by the owner would have blown up in his face, routing tables, lat, ip addresses, networks and network rule configurations, certs, etc would be so different the restore should have failed. I would agree that you are not getting the whole story. You should be able to uninstall ISA reinstall ISA and restore from your original config, shouldn't take to long. -----Original Message----- From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Glenn P. JOHNSTON Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 4:43 PM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: Restore of ISA server config from 1 sbs server to another Sbs server. OK. I am now on site looking at the server, and the server is one sick little monster. There are 2 issues apparent at the moment, when I am trying to restore the original saved config file I have, the progress bar gets about 1/2 way and stops, even after 30 minutes it did not move, even allowing for how s -- l -- o -- w the server is running, I don't think this is going to work. If I try to alter any of the firwall rules, add a new one, change an existing one, delete an existing one, to change / / delete part works, when I click apply, again the progress bar goes about 1/2 way and stops. Does anyone have a feel for if the restore of a foreign ISA config file should make the server run so slow, network stuff I can understand, but could this be expected to make the server itself so slow ? I just feel that I still might not have the whole story, but I can see anything else obvious that has been tampered with, or installed. Similarly, the SBS wizzard also hangs after you've answer all the questions. Any suggestions anyone, short of uninstalling and reinstalling ? From: Greg Mulholland Sent: Tue 16/May/2006 09:16 To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: Restore of ISA server config from 1 sbs server to another Sbs server. I missed the "SBS" bit so yeah then ill agree.. other situations it would be a nightmare!! Greg Mulholland From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Amy Babinchak Sent: Tue 16/05/2006 9:03 AM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: Restore of ISA server config from 1 sbs server to another Sbs server. How many extra rules does an ISA server on an SBS box need? Usually they don't have any. Sometimes 1-5. Ok, you got me. It might take 30 minutes if you're a slow typer. Amy From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Mulholland Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 7:01 PM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: Restore of ISA server config from 1 sbs server to another Sbs server. Does that 20 mins include manually re adding the rules Amy! Greg Mulholland From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Amy Babinchak Sent: Mon 15/05/2006 10:07 PM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: Restore of ISA server config from 1 sbs server to another Sbs server. Great story. You are going to make a lot of money from this client. He'll never again do anything without calling you first. Use the restore. Worst comes to worst you can reinstall ISA. It takes what, 20 minutes to install and run the CEIW? Amy From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Glenn P. JOHNSTON Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 3:41 AM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Restore of ISA server config from 1 sbs server to another Sbs server. Hi, At the urgent request of the owner of the business, I will be attending a site in the morning, with a parcular problem created by the unknowing trying to do what they should not have. It a small business, 5 users running a recently installed SBS2003 Premium SP1 on a HP 1100 server. In an attempt to get inbound VPN working, instead of calling me, the business owner tried to save a few bucks and has resotred an ISA server config backup file he obtained from one of his friends at the chamber of comerce taken off of his SBS server. He friend told him, "We have that working, just restore this config file, flick this setting and it will be working. Other than it exists I know nothing of the other SBS server. Fortunately he owned up to what he did, so I at least have a straight up and down view of the problem, and know whats happened. Not too supprisingly, now he can not access the server from the network, the LAN PC's are not even getting DHCP addresses, and external e-mail is down, the server no longer is answering on port 25 from the internet. If he logs on to the console, says it's very very slow. He timed it at 20 minutes before the desktop icons appeared So it seems pretty sick. I've done a technet & web search and there is no mention of such acts, it's probably not a too frequent occurance (thankfully !) Does anyone have any experience with a similar thing ? Before turning up in the morning, I'd like to have some feeling for if the server is recoverable, or if it's likely to need a full rebuild ? I do have a copy of the ISA config from when the server was installed about 3 months ago, does anyone have any feeling for if simply resotring this wil put everything straight ? 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